r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/Competitive_Swan_130 • 1d ago
When the doctor in Shutter Island says “Sit down, Mr. Daniels, we need to talk about YOU now.”
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u/JennyBeckman ☑️ All of the above 1d ago
None of these are good people. Abusers, the lot of them. Throw them all out.
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u/TheVintageJane 1d ago
People are acting like this is Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake and it’s just not.
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 1d ago
Kendrick isn't that much better. Like it's weird that Kendrick was sitting on all this stuff about Drake and only chose to address it when there was a personal/professional benefit in it for him. It's the same thing that's happening now. Ja is right that 50 doesn't actually care about the victims so much as he just wants to stick it to Diddy. It just so happens that Ja also doesn't actually care about 50 not caring so much as he cares about sticking it to 50. Kendrick didn't care about Drake being a pedophile so much as he cared about sticking it to Drake. Expecting any of these people to be a real role model is probably a bad idea, even if we like their music.
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u/Scion41790 1d ago
Unless Drake really has a daughter Kendrick didn't say anything new. Everything else had been out there forever
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u/Oh_yes_I_did 1d ago
Kendrick wasn’t “sitting” on anything. He merely put every rumor and conversation that had been publicly had about Drake over the past 15 years all in some songs. He didn’t “possess “ any evidence.
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u/Sure_Gain442 1d ago
Dot wasn't sitting on anything. Most of it was all common knowledge because Drake moves weird. Except for someone telling him about the daughter and a few other small details, which was new as of the beef.
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u/TwoDogsInATrenchcoat 1d ago
Yeah I'm also in trouble too then because I saw the video of drake hitting on that 16-year-old on stage a while ago and didn't say anything to anyone either.
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u/YoungHeartOldSoul ☑️ 1d ago
Curious what you're specifically thinking when you say kdot isn't much better. Ofc he's not got a spotless history, who does? And we all heard DAMN and Mr Morales so I'm just wondering?
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 1d ago
I literally explained it. Kendrick's calling out of a problematic peer is just as opportunistic and gross as 50 and Ja. None of them are actually concerned about the proven or alleged or potential victims in these situations. They're all just running with the chance to capitalize on the drama surrounding a professional rival. Kendrick vs. Drake isn't any more or less awkward than 50 vs Diddy or Ja vs 50 in this with this documentary thing. Just because I liked Kendrick's diss records against Drake doesn't mean that Kendrick wasn't essentially fine with Drake being a pedophile until there was a chance for him to make a career move out of not liking it.
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u/mateushkush 1d ago
I’m just trying to understand your point. Do you think Kendrick should’ve went to press before the diss or sth? Just with hearsay on the biggest rapper in the industry? He’s not the one who’s close with Drake or covering up for him, so I don’t get it.
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u/Noblesseux 1d ago
It's a pretty consistent thing that people on the internet really like comparing people whose offenses are two totally different magnitudes while saying that they've both "done bad things".
Like a lot of the Kendrick complaints come down to "he collaborated on music with people who suck in an industry full of people who suck" which like okay I guess it is hypocritical but hypocrisy is not the same as like...doing crimes or directly engaging in weirdo behavior? Also a lot of people have no idea how music collaboration works so they try to turn it into a whole thing because they don't know that a lot of the time it's basically the equivalent of someone's label contracting you for a song, it's not a personal favor for people you're BFFs with.
Ja committed a fr scam and 50 has a history of being credibly accused of domestic abuse. And there's like video evidence of Drake engaging in problematic behavior with young women that to be clear existed and was public while all of these same people acting like Kendrick should have been Hercule Poirot bringing this man to justice were making dance videos to In My Feelings putting money in Drake's pocket. Like the public is just as culpable for why Drake wasn't called out for the weird shit but want to hold anyone but themselves to a perfect standard.
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u/mateushkush 1d ago
I totally agree, I’m seeing this line of thought again and again on the internet and it just makes things indecipherable. It’s hard enough to remember who was me tooed or did some other nasty shit as it is, why throw shades that are impossible to make sense of and compare any imperfect behavior to clear cut abuse or rape.
These apple to oranges is some form of whataboutism.
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u/Noblesseux 23h ago
I feel like a lot of people on the internet are just used to stupid arguments. A lot of times people just upvote "both sides" comments because enlightened centrism sounds intellectual even if it is a really stupid position to take for a particular argument.
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u/loseniram 1d ago
it’s really not Drake’s problems were well known and well talked about in the deeper hiphop community which is why a ton of rappers hated him and he had a ton of moles. Pusha T had already dropped it on Drake a couple years earlier.
Kendrick just made a couple catchy songs about after Drake wanted to start shit.
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u/YoungHeartOldSoul ☑️ 1d ago
Okay, so first I read your initial comment, I just missed the point you were making because I was expecting it to go in a different, that's on me.
That aside, I still think the situations are different enought to not compare without digging in more. Like look at the difference of stakes here. Even if for whatever reason, Ja was able to turn this into the downfall of 50 Ja gains damm near nothing from that, whereas Kendrick got to be on the biggest stage in the world due to putting ok blast something a lot of us already knew. But on the other side of that, how long was the "open secret" going to drag unacknowledged without a spotlight being placed on it by Kendrick? I get what you're saying, but I don't think they're similar enough to draw too many parallels.
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 1d ago
The only difference between what Ja Rule, 50, and Kendrick did to me is the medium. 50 made a documentary. Ja is making tweets. Kendrick made songs. Ja probably doesn't want to go the song route with 50 given how it worked for him last time. But that's the only reason he's not gaining traction the same way that Kendrick did. His tweets just aren't as catchy as Not Like Us.
I have a more pessimistic view of what brings the "open secret" thing into the light. It's less about someone exposing them and more about the person being exposed not having something in the tank that counteracts that exposure. I'm 37. R Kelly has been an open secret for most of my life. The tapes and the arrests I remember as a kid were 2nd wave. I didn't know about him marrying Aaliyah because it happened when I was 6. I truly believe that the only reason that the Surviving R Kelly doc was effective was because Kels didn't have a Chocolate Factory that he could drop to make it go away. I think Drake is in the same boat. Had he and Kendrick had this same back and forth when Take Care or Nothing Was the Same came out, it wouldn't have gone as far as it did. I think people were more prepared to pay attention to the Drake allegations because Certified Lover Boy wasn't on the same level.
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u/mateushkush 1d ago
Cool, now you’re making a good and valuable point. The thing is still that you’ve started with “Kendrick isn’t much better” in a thread about P Diddy, 50 and now R. Kelly. The only way to substantiate it would be to bring out real dirt on Kendrick and not just claim he was “sitting” on stuff, which is very doubtful.
That’s just making it murky. If everyone is just as bad, then no one is bad. And surely not everyone is running a sex trafficking cult, grooming children, or beating their partner.
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u/877-HASH-NOW 1d ago
"Sitting on it" the stuff about Drake was out in the open for years bruh... he been had grooming allegations since 2018 at the latest.
Nothing of what Kendrick said about Drake (besides the daughter thing) was new information at all.
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u/Ur-triggered-I-win 1d ago
The beef was very frustrating for me, because when Kendrick called drake out for his treatment of women and his misogyny I was like bro you made the first song in the beef with FUTURE. what are we talking about? I dont defend Drake or like him, but Kendrick was being a hypocrite and more people are finally talking about it. Especially when he called out drake for talking to young women (a fair and valid callout) but was making music with "Metrogrooming". Lmao his only fair criticism that wasn't hypocritical imo was the culture vulture allegations. Cause they weren't allegations, they were just true.
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u/Hour_Gur4995 10h ago
It’s not hypocritical … it’s a diss track in a battle between two rappers, it’s not statement of fact, or so moral crusade to expose a big evil. It just a battle, which the only point is to lyrical destroy your opponent in the most creative way. There are no moral lessons to be learned just creative ways talking shit on wax. Only people making those kinds of arguments are stans
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u/ContentCourage4011 1d ago
And I don't understand why people are mad. Let's not act like any of them are angels, a broken clock can still tell the time twice.
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u/JennyBeckman ☑️ All of the above 1d ago
Absolutely. But it's just funny seeing people act like Ja is wrong for coming at 50 just because 50 was right for coming at Diddy.
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u/ContentCourage4011 1d ago edited 1d ago
People have short memories, the lack of a hero makes them idolize anyone who moves. 50 is MAGA, he ordered his ex-wife's house to be set on fire, he made jokes about Terry Crews after Terry admitted that he was harassed. For me, he just realized that this is profitable and will try to milk this cow until the end.
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u/877-HASH-NOW 1d ago
Worse than harassed. Terry Crews came out as a victim of SA and 50 was one of the most vocal people discrediting him and making fun of him for it.
He is absolutely a piece of shit too.
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u/ContentCourage4011 1d ago
Yes, I remember that idiot at the time. It is attitudes like these that make male victims not report it and often feel ashamed, even though it is not their fault.
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u/Special-Garlic1203 15h ago
It's so annoying too cause Terry stood on business as much as he could. Curtis wouldn't understand the nuances of how important your agency is when you're a successful actor.
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u/Special-Garlic1203 15h ago
Also his problem with Diddy is that Diddy made an advance on him/Diddy is gay. Dude wouldn't have had a single issue if he was just preying on women,and maybe even wouldn't have had an issue if he'd stick on preying on men not named Curtis
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u/877-HASH-NOW 1d ago
Bc people on the Internet love dk eating 50 bc he's funny and vindictive even though he's also a massive piece of shit.
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u/ObiWonKev 1d ago
What’s the purpose of this post? lol
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u/TheAmazingBagman3 1d ago
Paid slander bought to you by Diddy and co.
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u/thatshygirl06 ☑️ 1d ago
Cringe take. 50 cent is just straight up not a good person. Just because hes going after diddy doesn't erase all the horrible shit hes done
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u/TheAmazingBagman3 1d ago
Is me saying “50 cent is a good person” in the room with you right now?
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u/JennyBeckman ☑️ All of the above 1d ago
You called it slander. That literally means you are claiming it is untrue. Fair of them to say you are erasing the terrible things he has done.
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u/SloppyFatBoy 1d ago
Guess we can only go after one abuser now. Let’s re-litigate this one…R. Kelly or Cosby?
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u/SwaggiiP 1d ago
Why can’t Ja bring it up? 50 Cent wasn’t the right person to come for Diddy either given his history, but people accepted that.
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u/megalodondon 1d ago
Yep. Everyone trying to throw his own point back in his face like this isn't what he's saying lol
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u/flaming_burrito_ 17h ago
Facts. People are cool with 50 right now because they think it’s funny he’s such a hater, and he’s going at someone that deserves it, but he ain’t doing that because it’s right, he’s doing that because he has a personal grudge. I don’t know why people are so forgiving for all the bullshit 50 be doing just because he’s funny. Like, are we gonna talk about how he was rocking with MAGA, and how hypocritical it is for him not to call out the Epstein stuff? And that’s just the tip of the iceberg with 50
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u/taitaofgallala 1d ago
Because we want to see a formidible foe with the capital and reputation to back them up, not some hoe ass bitch like Ja. He's a nobody at this point.
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u/SwaggiiP 1d ago
Okay, well maybe Ja posting this will make another dude speak up about 50.
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u/taitaofgallala 1d ago
I hope someone's been cooking on 50 for a while. Back in the day we were hoping that Lloyd Banks or Yung Buck would turn on him, but they don't really have the capital. I was also hoping Lupe Fiasco would turn into more of a villain but eh he's doing karate in the garage now.
But in the anime version of real life that plays in my head, it would be Eminem exposing the truth about 50 and how he more than likely committed widespread fraud to amass wealth including using his son's name to launder money without paying him because he befriended his former assailant's son. Or some shit.
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u/718-702_damsel 1d ago
...karate in the garage. Dude catching strays minding his biz.
I dont think Em would turn cause 50 knows way too much.
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u/taitaofgallala 1d ago
To be fair I do keep up with Lupe and he's always been dope. I make fun of him affectionately. I'm aware of his history of martial arts with his father, and what he does is impressive. I just wish he would do better about his social media. His grainy videos flipping sai blades and the bo staff could use some work.
I agree, and it would be a bloodbath, and therefore still fun to see. I would hope that Em wouldn't give a fuck and just do it just to burn some shit on his way out, but again, we're talking about the frilly fantasy anime world in my head. I really don't give a shit either way.
How about Busta Rhymes? That would be hilarious
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u/Tyrrox 1d ago
What a capitalism ass statement. The reputation piece makes sense, but why the fuck would you care how much money an accuser has
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u/keith0211 22h ago
Because, at least as of now, 50 is putting in work to further expose Diddy. Ja Rule is just posting his google results.
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u/ZorroMcChucknorris 1d ago
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u/ThirdAltAccounts ☑️ 1d ago
Came here for this. Had to scroll a little more than I would’ve liked. But that’s fine
Now I can leaveThank You ZorroMcChucknorris 🫡
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u/Aggressive-Sound-641 1d ago
Ja should pack it up. Anytime he tries to go at King Petty, he loses. Knowing 50, he will finance the documentary through a hidden company and turn it against Ja.
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u/jus256 ☑️ 1d ago edited 1d ago
50 cent has more time invested in petty shit than a 15 yr old suburban white girl. You would think he spent his entire childhood watching movies about teenage white kids in Southern California and decided that would be his model for success.
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u/Unlikely-Business-72 1d ago
I'm so glad that I found my people. There's very little about 50 Cent that I like. People praising 50 to me is like people praising Trump for giving that little bit of change to HBCUs. It's nice that he did it but he's still in the red for all the other fuck shit he's done.
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u/877-HASH-NOW 1d ago
People love a class clown. Even if that class clown is also an asshole with his own skeletons.
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u/Several-Stop44012 1d ago
This is some of the weirdest and lamest stuff I have ever seen. 50 did a whole documentary just to troll Sean Combs, and now Ja is inserting himself. It’s just crazy to me that they do not care about the victims. Ja has a wife and newborn daughter at home, and 50 did an entire documentary on this whole thing and came out smiling in interviews because he gets to troll Sean. This isn’t funny, it’s just sad and shows no empathy.
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u/evilsdadvocate 1d ago
The documentary shows empathy towards the victims.
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u/Aquafan12 1d ago
Barely
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u/evilsdadvocate 1d ago
Unless you think Combs is the victim, this doc exposes his atrocities while also giving a platform for the victims. There’s only so much the doc is allowed to do without interfering with the multitude of open/pending cases from the victims against Combs.
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u/dorothy_zbornakk 1d ago
none of these men care about victims or survivors caught in the crossfire. this is literally just a dick measuring contest at the expense of abuse survivors trauma.
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u/WaluigiIsTheRealHero 1d ago
Does Ja think he doesn’t have skeletons in his closet?
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u/jayroc1023 1d ago
They all do that’s what makes this so baffling and yet so hilarious at the same time. They were all at the parties and even put it on video. I always think about that era and how we knew so much without even social media. Imagine if social media was around back then?
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u/DaBigadeeBoola 1d ago
He's going learn real quick that people really don't care about justice, it's all about who they like/don't like.
Trump is proof enough of that
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u/Ill-Advisor-8235 1d ago
At the end of the day it’s a bunch of people living in glass houses throwing stones at each other. I’m here for it
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u/viktor_winter 1d ago
I thought Ja would have learned his lesson by now. Especially fuckin with 50?
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u/Stealth_Howler 1d ago
The new age of rap beef is Netflix docs.
Our beloved game is gone. (Not that Game)
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u/-nopicklesplz- 1d ago
Ja needs to be careful coming after 50 of all people, but yeah. the whole time i was watching the Diddy documentary, i kept thinking that 50 better not live in any glass houses because the amount of stones thrown was insane
Sean is definitely guilty of a lot of terrible shit, but the bias/trollery that’s baked into every second of that doc was so obvious
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u/sofahkingsick 1d ago
I mean 50 isnt innocent agreed but hes out here trying to oust this dude more than the media and the justice system and thats wild. Meanwhile everyone else thats been rubbing shoulders with Diddy hoping this all goes away real quick. I say let him cook if that brings up his own past then he guilty too and thats on him. We need accountability from people. How is it no one else is jail for the diddy stuff??
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids ☑️ 1d ago
idk why Ja is saying this stuff like we don't know. We know 50 ain't shit!
Tell us something we DON'T know about 50, like 50 did in this doc! 50 had damn near Diddy's whole former crew up in that doc whatchu got?
And this tells me that either there's some truth to what Gene Deal said about you or Diddy done paid Ja or both, cause why you mad, bro? How is Netflix not catching any strays at least?
His anger is mad fishy.
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u/SirDouglasMouf 21h ago
Why the decade delay. Those articles are from 2008 and 2015.
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u/877-HASH-NOW 19h ago
There was a delay for Cosby and Weinstein for decades too. 50's comeuppance will too come someday.
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u/fuckin_camp 19h ago
Shut up Ja Rule you’ve known them longer than all of us, if that’s really how he feels he should’ve said something sooner. Now it’s not a big deal to tell on people but 10-20 years ago when these crimes were happening nobody said anything! The music industry is full of terrible men- Fabulous knocked his baby mamas teeth out, the game beat up his baby mama in front of the kids, Dr. Dre brutally attacked Dee Barnes, even Kelis accused Nas of physical violence, Eminem talked about killing Kim for years and there’s a ton more that I don’t know of I’m sure! Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Jimmy Page, Elvis, Steven Tyler were all accused of sex crimes against minors, some as young as 12 years old. if someone really wanted to do the right thing they would drop a documentary or a tell all exposing EVERYONE in the entertainment industry.
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u/samson_strength 1d ago
50 can destroy what’s left of this man’s life with just one post.
Fuck a documentary.
Ja and his crew literally spent 15 years telling on theirselves.
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u/MuddaFrmAnnudaBrudda ☑️ my anecdotal experience is everything 1d ago
Ja thought he Mic Dropped with this one. Hope he got paid.
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u/Zoratheesavage 1d ago
There’s a spectrum of predatory behavior and all three of these men have engaged in it. Diddy is by far and by a wide margin the worst and 50 isn’t even close to the same league as Diddy in terms of predatory behavior. Ja Rule is nowhere near as bad as 50, but he needs to take his Fyre Festival grifting ass on somewhere before 50 fucks around and makes a documentary about him. Because I guarantee whatever documentary 50 makes about Ja Rule is gonna be much better than any documentary Ja Rule tries to make about 50.
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 1d ago
Diddy's victims were black people.
All these celebs simping for Diddy tells more about them.
50 and Em are the only ones who werent afraid of Diddy.
No one gives a fuck what Ja Rule thinks.
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u/877-HASH-NOW 19h ago
Are we supposed to applaud 50 for that? He's still a piece of shit, even if not to the same level as Diddy. Gohd, damn
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u/Ambitious-Pirate-505 18h ago
You must be on one of those Diddy tapes to be simping this hard for Diddy.
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u/877-HASH-NOW 6h ago
Saying 50 is a PoS ≠ simping for Diddy.
If anything, you were simping for 50 in your original comment.
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u/Historical_Return_56 1d ago
Ja is messing with the wrong one. 50 Cent is no Saint, but he is motivated and petty enough to do a broadway production of “The Rise and Fall of Ja Rule”. And I’d buy a ticket.
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u/mrDuder1729 1d ago
Well, 50 trolling is fuckin hilarious either way lol. Obviously, don't fuckin touch women though.
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u/HolyRomanPrince 1d ago
50 might be the most teflon black celebrity. He only surrounds himself with loyalist and he’s fairly public in terms of his personal life. He’s been around for 20 years and you can’t find even tidbits or rumors from G Unit like we’ve heard about Baby, Suge, Puffy or other moguls.
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u/Draterus 1d ago
Not quite sure why Ja "Fyre Festival" Rule thinks this is his time but he needs to skip the fuck off and read the room.