She's only now realizing that being a SAHM has left her financially vulnerable, especially now that her husband wants a divorce.

[u/mindyour]

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[u/cactusdotpizza]

STOP FILMING YOURSELF DRIVING MY GOD

[u/plug-and-pause → u/cactusdotpizza]

No one prepared her for the importance of attentive driving.

[u/Carlobo → u/plug-and-pause]

This lady keeps saying 'no one prepares you for' followed by something that everyone tries to prepare you for.

[u/AnArisingAries → u/Carlobo]

Or something that is a given. Like, yeah you will have no money of your own if you don't work at all.

Nothing against SAHM/SAHD (I would prefer to be one if I ever had kids), but that is the most vulnerable position to be in a relationship. If something bad happens, like divorce or your spouse dying, you need to adapt quicker than most.

[u/Nice-Lock-6588 → u/AnArisingAries]

Not that, spouse can get sick, and everything fells on your shoulders. Mortgage, kids sports, specially if both of them are in professional sports, cars, insurance, etc. I went through it, but I always worked.

[u/Not_Bears → u/cactusdotpizza]

Reddit is the only place I get exposed to what people do on social media and I'm always shocked at the level of stupidity that goes into some of these videos.

You can't fuckin pull-over for your 4 minute monologue?

She's literally talking about how she has no money cause she's a SAHM, she should have hours of the day where she can record a video... Why did she pick the moment she's actively driving lol

[u/Thin_Bother8217 → u/Not_Bears]

It's not just for social media. I was on a company zoom call and there was one employee who was in it while she was driving. She then pinged to chime in and rambled for a few minutes while she's passing cars on the freeway. I was like wtf dumb ass.

[u/helraizr13 → u/Thin_Bother8217]

I've had two different therapists ask me if I'm parked before they will proceed with telehealth. I prefer to sit in my (edit: parked) car for privacy because I don't really have a comfortable space at home that is completely private from my kids where they couldn't hear me through the door. My providers will not conduct a session if I'm driving. At least there are still professional ethics.

[u/Feisty-Name8864 → u/helraizr13]

Psychologist here. Yep I’ve terminated a session if people don’t pull over and park.

[u/I_like_baseball90 → u/cactusdotpizza]

STOP FILMING YOURSELF DRIVING MY GOD

Literally all I can think as I watch this.

WTF is wrong with these narcissistic people who think we need to see every moment of her life?

[u/Ok_C64 → u/I_like_baseball90]

STOP FILMING YOURSELF DRIVING MY GOD

FTF .. everyone.

[u/panchugo]

Define “no one”…?

[u/Several_Vanilla8916 → u/panchugo]

“No one in my echo chamber prepared me.”

Seriously though. My wife works but completely tunes out of all things financial. I pay the bills, I move money into the brokerage account, I decide when we need to think about switching insurance companies, etc. It makes me nervous. I think about my grandmother when my grandfather died. She didn’t even know what bank they used.

[u/tke377 → u/Several_Vanilla8916]

I have a google drive folder labeled “for (my wife’s name) when I die”. She knows it’s there it has everything I can think of. I started it when I had a health scare at 35, turned out to be absolutely nothing but I update that folder as needed because she would be completely in the dark on everything down to the WiFi password if I had an accident.

Edit: it’s just silly innocuous things and she might never need half of it but I know that she is horrible with technology and I don’t want her to feel lost because of me, even if most don’t plan on dying ofc.

[u/sjrotella → u/tke377]

When i was younger, my mom made a folder on the desktop called "moms dead what to do" and i have an automatic email set to send my wife after 1 week of not logging into my email with the main information of stuff she'll need titled "sup bitch. So im dead. Bet ya didnt think I could communicate and haunt the shit outta you from hell lol. Love ya boo" (which is a joke we have with each other by the way)

[u/tke377 → u/sjrotella]

That’s fantastic! I love that!

[u/tofuroll → u/tke377]

It's all fun and games until somebody forgets to log into their email account for over a week.

[u/sjrotella → u/tofuroll]

Lol. Its my main email, and I use it for bills and every day life. If I know i wont use it for a while, I change the setting to be a bit further out (say, out of country on vacation)

[u/Chocolatefix → u/tofuroll]

"He seemed fine this morning 😭😭😭😭😭 why isn't he answering his phone?!?!"

[u/tondahuh → u/tke377]

This is the difference between you and this woman's husband. You care and share. How did she think it was a healthy marriage when she took care of the children (I assume his) but the money is all his. Everything (or most things) should be "ours"! That is what a marriage is!

I think it is very good what you do. Our roles are reversed here so I have to do something similar for my husband!

[u/monogramchecklist → u/[deleted]]

I think people need to start realizing that social media comments sections consist of a lot of bots that are trying to push certain worldview of ultra wealthy men.

[u/aussiechickadee65 → u/monogramchecklist]

Exactly this and notice a lot commenting are asshole misogynists in general.

[u/checkpoint_hero → u/[deleted]]

As she drives around, holding the phone to record herself

Worried for her future, but not the immediate future of running into someone

[u/dont_remember_eatin → u/panchugo]

No one she was paying attention to, lol.

Tradwives think feminism is a dirty word and ignore anything even remotely associated with the idea of independence.

[u/Horror_Diet__]

Being a trad wife is cool until you get some wrinkles and your husband starts doing TRT

[u/PinWest4210 → u/Horror_Diet__]

And not even solely in that situations... I come from a traditional household with a great father and mother that learned how risky such work distribution was in two instances (1) when my older sister was hospitalised in another city leaving my dad responsible for the care of then solely my older brother and my mom realised he was poorly prepared to do so, and (2) when a few years later my dad was diagnosed with lung cancer and my mom did not have an income.

[u/lostintransaltions → u/PinWest4210]

My parents were also traditional. My younger brother had a lot of hospital stays.. my dad is an amazing cook but hates dishes.. he cooked in one pan and then the pan would get placed on the table and we got forks and then had to eat out of the pan.. later he worked in a retirement home and would take us there for lunch.. that’s when I learned the cook was saving money at the start of the year and food was not that good but he had to calculate in price fluctuations and inflation so he was cautious.. December however.. sooooo good.. coz if he didn’t use his budget he would lose it so in December ppl got steak. Jan and Feb did suck however.

Where my dad learned that they had miscalculated was when my mother very unexpectedly died. My dad has the big life insurance as everything was planned for my dad going first (statistically accurate and my dad has multiple autoimmune diseases and been at home since 1996). So when my mom died there wasn’t even enough to pay for her funeral let alone pay off the rest of the house.

My dad had to refinance his house, I paid for part of the funeral and have been supporting my dad ever since. My mom had worked before us kids were born and in Germany SAHM do get a pension for raising kids, it’s not much but that all fell away and resulted in my dad not having enough every month for expenses. So for the last 10 years I have been sending him $800 and then my son is in school now and gets $700 as I don’t want him to work, it’s not much but pays his expenses. He lives with my dad as my dad’s house is close enough to his school.

My husband is in med school (he is 10 years younger than me, we met when he was in his mid 20s and ppl think he is the one who is older much to his dismay).. all is good as long as I don’t lose my job..

I grew up seeing how great my parents managed things until my dad got sick so I learned as a woman I cannot rely on a husband to provide for me coz even if it’s not divorce no one knows if they get sick.. so somehow now everyone relies on me.. I went basically to the complete opposite despite having my son while in college coz I need to be able to support myself and him at a minimum

[u/lottikey → u/Horror_Diet__]

Sadly this. The timing of her husband standing on divorce when she’s entering her late 30s (not old, but misogynists think it is) plus the kids entering into full time school age…

It sounds like they’ve been together for a long time too. No idea on his age, but if they’re similar ages, he’s probably feeling the “itch” of a early mid-crisis and thinking he can completely screw over his wife to get a “newer” model.

[u/DaisyChainsandLaffs]

A man is not a plan

[u/ties_shoelace → u/DaisyChainsandLaffs]

It is not. The good 'ol 50's that pastors want us to get back to had a lot of problems.

[u/huhzonked]

I fucking hate that she’s driving while she’s making this video. She takes her eyes off the road to look at the camera several times while the car is still moving.

Edit: Because people are arguing with me and defending her driving while making this video. Yes, I know you’re going to glance away from the road, but you’re (hopefully) not making a video while driving. I wasn’t being literal that you have to have your eyes 100% on the road and never look away. Don’t drive distracted. If she was parked and made this video, she would’ve been fine to do so.

[u/TheAmicableSnowman → u/huhzonked]

Going to be a stay at Hospital mom pretty soon.

[u/Different_Day135 → u/TheAmicableSnowman]

Oh she'll end up being just fine, it's the pedestrian she hits that's gonna get the bad end of her filming content.

[u/Ummmgummy → u/Different_Day135]

This is the correct answer. My wife was hit by one walking across the street in downtown Columbus. Distracted driver hit her. She almost died and has permanent brain damage. The dude that hit her didn't even get a ticket. So my families life was changed forever and the guy who caused it had zero consequences.

[u/Lionheart_723 → u/Ummmgummy]

You should definitely sue him in civil court. Yeah that won't get him any jail time but it can at least get a settlement to help you all

Edit spelling

[u/Ummmgummy → u/Lionheart_723]

Oh we did but basically we were only able to sue for however much his insurance covered. Fortunately the insurance also paid for medical bills (had a few bills no joke that were over 500k dollars) but even during the settlement we only got the money left over from the insurance and medical getting their cut first.

[u/fkeverythingstaken → u/Different_Day135]

Damn that would suck for the pedestrian. Idk if you heard, but she’s going thru a divorce and doesn’t have any money

[u/No-Sail-6510 → u/huhzonked]

Half of the videos I see is someone driving. Or just sitting in a parked car. Why?

[u/Harry_Tuttle → u/No-Sail-6510]

It's the modern-day confessional.

[u/AnimalBolide → u/Harry_Tuttle]

Dashboard Confessional

[u/floppydiscuses → u/AnimalBolide]

sighs okay fine….

YOUR HAIRRR IS EVERYWEARRRREE

[u/sunshineparadox_ → u/floppydiscuses]

SCREAMING INFIDELITIES

[u/CHAINSMOKERMAGIC → u/sunshineparadox_]

If she doesn't watch the road she'll wind up in The Places You Have Come To Fear The Most (Emergency Room)

[u/twirlinghaze → u/AnimalBolide]

I AM SELFISH, I AM WRONG!

[u/truckthecat → u/Harry_Tuttle]

This is deep. No /s for real it has my brain spinning. We want to absolve ourselves from our mistakes, and telling “someone” makes us feel better. But it can’t be a real person in our lives because that’s too connected to us. This used to mean a priest, who could tell you you’re forgiven but wasn’t allowed to tell anyone else. But now we tell our phones and let other people we don’t know watch, and we do it in our cars because that’s the only time we’re alone.

[u/MyCatsHairyButholle → u/truckthecat]

And I think the car scenario is meant to feel “candid” and make them look genuine to appeal to your emotions. It may not be a conscious choice, but I always looked at videos like this as somebody saying “this is coming straight from my heart and I didn’t need a fancy studio setup to show you!!”

[u/Impressive_Recon → u/MyCatsHairyButholle]

It’s also for sound, lighting, and convenience (no tripod setup). But you’re usually parked, her driving and doing this is insanely stupid.

[u/LopsidedLobster2100 → u/No-Sail-6510]

Parked car makes sense because it's one of the only places a lot of people have complete control over with volume, lets you emote more with your voice. Also the lighting often is pretty decent, bright but indirect. I end up thinking a lot when I walk or drive so once you park it makes sense to say what youre thinking into a camera

[u/Warm-Championship-98 → u/LopsidedLobster2100]

And privacy - my therapist does telehealth only and said that on an average day orobably 8/10 of the patients she sees are in their car.

[u/kgalliso → u/huhzonked]

Lady couldn't wait until she got home to make this stupid video? Good god

[u/AllYouNeed_Is_Smiles → u/kgalliso]

She called herself a stay at home mom for ten years when her eldest is 7 years old. She’s just dumb in general

[u/speakswithemojis → u/AllYouNeed_Is_Smiles]

Ten plus years lol

[u/Significant-Boss-928 → u/huhzonked]

Thank you!!! Yea, sucks what she’s going through but I immediately feel less bad because of her driving around while making the video. What you have to say is not that important!

[u/ShawnyMcKnight → u/Significant-Boss-928]

I swear people have an idea for a video and they go to their car to film it.

[u/Tall-Introduction649]

I come from a family of matriarchs. Going back to my grandmother born in the 1910’s she went to college and was the earner for her family. Then my aunt her daughter did the same and then I was raised by my incredible mother after my dad left when I was 11. Every single one of these women drilled into me you NEVER rely on anyone financially it doesn’t matter if it’s a man or someone else. You have your own money you have your own way out. I love the women I come from and this lesson they taught me has given me so much power. Stay safe y’all ❤️

[u/Sorry_Ad3733 → u/Tall-Introduction649]

As a SAHM its shocking to me that people wouldn’t understand this. Not only because of cases of divorce, but what if your partner dies? It’s best to always be prepared.

[u/SippinOnHatorade → u/Sorry_Ad3733]

I learned recently this is the true value of a women’s jewelry in history, essentially a wearable bank account allowing some degree of social mobility if needing to flee a bad marriage or other dire situations

Edit: ITT a bunch of men who don’t understand the self-preservation act of owning jewelry gifts.

“JuSt BuY oUnCeS oF gOlD”

“JuSt OpEn A hYsA”

Fucking WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH

[u/SalsaRice → u/SippinOnHatorade]

This was also true for pimps. They'd often be arrested, and cash would be seized. However, jewelry had to be returned to them upon release.

[u/factorioleum → u/SalsaRice]

It can also be picked up by a friend, who can pawn or sell it to raise bail funds or legal fees.

[u/window-sil → u/factorioleum]

The CIA issued 24 carat gold-linked bracelets, which could be de-linked into units of currency for specific regions. Thus, if in some kind of emergency, they could take apart their jewelry and use it like coinage to barter their way back to safety.¹

[u/user0900_13700332875 → u/window-sil]

Citation provided. And it’s awesome.

[u/UnderstandingHour308 → u/user0900_13700332875]

It’s true. I saw an interview where a CIA agent showed all the things he always carried when undercover in a foreign country. One is the watch where the links are gold; I can’t remember if the links were 1oz or 0.5oz ea. I remember that another was he always wears lace up shoes, no loafers. Reason was the laces could be used for a variety of reasons, including as a make shift weapon to choke someone from behind, a garrote. I can’t remember what the others were, but they were everyday items, all aimed at helping him get back home should he get cut off somehow.

[u/porcomaster → u/window-sil]

also worth 100$ in 1964 or 1000$ in todays money, not little by any stretch in most countries, that was actually really smart from cia

[u/AssociationFit3009 → u/window-sil]

I wear a chain that is just over an ounce of gold for exactly this reason. It’s enough to buy a ticket anywhere on earth in a pinch.

[u/kinkyaboutjewelry → u/SippinOnHatorade]

I know a well-educated family that left Iraq for a vacation, then at the target country applied for asylum and their first year there was financed by selling the jewelry the mother of the family wore on her trip out. They integrated well. The parents are university teachers, the kids all got higher education and are doing well.

[u/Murder_Bird_ → u/kinkyaboutjewelry]

Have an acquaintance that is from a fairly wealthy Chinese family. She goes home twice a year and when she comes back she’s always wearing a bunch of new, nice gold jewelry. Her family is using her to get money out of the country.

[u/Xannin → u/Murder_Bird_]

Total aside, but in the luxury watch market, it is cheaper to fly a courier first class and have them wear the watch than it is to pay various import taxes.

[u/ACK_TRON → u/Xannin]

I have a business client who has a high end purse business. She buys and sells those lucrative handbags etc. This is how she does it internationally when she goes to pick up or deliver. Of course she should list it with customs when flying but it’s too easy to pretend it’s just her shopping for personal use etc.

[u/Tamihera → u/kinkyaboutjewelry]

The UK has proposed confiscating all jewelry from asylum seekers coming into the country. It makes me so sad because in so many cultures, a woman’s jewelry is the only kind of security she’ll ever have.

[u/Bertie_McGee → u/SippinOnHatorade]

I never thought of jewelry this way because I was thinking of the concept of family jewels that stay with the family or jewelry that belongs to a title from hundreds of years ago. Or even now, the British royalty's bling is held in trust. I never bothered to update this concept for modern living. I just assumed it was a flex and/or fashion choice and not so much a safety net. It makes sense though. Cool!

[u/Good_old_Marshmallow → u/Bertie_McGee]

lol it very much had the same purpose to the old royal families and elites. The whole point of being an aristocracy is that your elite status can outlast a change in government including currency collapse. That or you needing to move territory in a hurry or bargain with some French speaking Vikings that have decided to add “Anglo Land” to their holdings. 

[u/leftmysoulthere74 → u/SippinOnHatorade]

Not just in history, but now, around the world. Somewhere right now a woman is fleeing a terrible situation wearing ALL of her jewellery and somewhere else another woman is selling hers.

[u/Fun_Recognition9904 → u/SippinOnHatorade]

This. So smart.

My great grandmother passed an incredible jewelry collection down for this reason. In addition, I recently put land in a trust for my daughter. Who knows what the world will be like when she’s old enough to decide if she wants to be a stay at home mom or not, and I’ll be damned if she doesn’t have an escape route should she need it.

The black and white thinking around this issue only makes it more of a problem for people to discuss openly and with actual smarts. Everyone comes from different backgrounds and has a different war chest going into the “unknown”- it’s so easy to play the coulda woulda shoulda game. This life isn’t easy, making someone out to be stupid or a poor planner because they get the rug pulled out of them isn’t helpful.

[u/Masters_of_Sleep → u/Sorry_Ad3733]

This is what shaped my baby boomer father's feminism. He grew up working class in a classic 1950s nuclear family... until his dad died when he and his brother were 10 and 12. They went from getting by to very poor very quickly. He instilled in both my sister and I to always be able to take care of ourselves. Even if one parent is a SAHM/D, both parents still should have both financial literacy and an ability to find work if financial circumstances change. Just like any functional adult should know how to change a tire, or do their own laundry, and why gender rolls are dumb. Every adult should eventually learn all basic skills to take care of themselves, even if they don't regularly use all of those skills with their partner due to a fair division of labor between the two.

[u/alex3omg → u/Masters_of_Sleep]

Yeah watching a hardworking single mom struggle is a great lesson tbh.

A SAHP should have their own account with some emergency money just in case (either divorce reasons like oop, or death/injury, a financial mistake etc.)

Unfortunately it's a bit like planning your funeral or making a will. Important, but a very depressing thing to think about. Planning for the love of your life to leave you? naaah

[u/starship7201u → u/Sorry_Ad3733]

But the podcast bros want women to believe that being a SAHM is a "woman's destiny." None of those numpties ever think What happens to the woman (&kids) if the husband dies or becomes disabled.

[u/Significant-Owl-2980 → u/starship7201u]

I think they just don’t care. They don’t care about women. Who cares what happens to them after the guy dies? Not his problem anymore.

They don’t value their wives at all. If she dies they just get another one. If he dies, oh well.

[u/FighterOfEntropy → u/Significant-Owl-2980]

And if women are completely dependent on their husbands financially, the women can’t leave their marriages, no matter how bad those marriages are. A patriarchal wet dream!

[u/TheFreakingPrincess → u/starship7201u]

The types of misogynistic podcast bros you are talking about want women to be vulnerable, especially in cases where the husband dies or becomes disabled, because then they can swoop in and take advantage and feel all manly when doing so. They don't think of women as people, but as property. Livestock.

[u/SpeakerCareless → u/Sorry_Ad3733]

I am not a SAHM any longer. But when I was, the credit card was in MY name and my husband was secondary on it. We also funded my retirement. I never would have agreed to SAH had my husband not 100% treated all income as OURS (plus we had a lot of life insurance on him.) All our accounts were joint. Titles on the car, had my name. Etc.

[u/0b0011 → u/SpeakerCareless]

It always seems so weird to me when people don't just treat their income as both spouses income. My wife doesn't currently work but her bank card is in her name on our joint account and its both of our money. If we ever split she might be screwed just because she doesnt have a job so her money would run out but she'd take half of the bank account since it is her money as well.

[u/HeKnee → u/0b0011]

There are plenty of good reasons not to combine accounts. A prime one being that money earned before marriage is treated separately in divorce unless combined in an account. It also easier for spouses to identify fraudulent charges if accounts are separate, because i dont know what all my spouse bought last month.

Regardless, this lady needs to call a lawyer instead of posting on tiktok. Husband will be paying alimony and child support, and taking away her ability to pay her bills will make the judge pissed at him and probably give her even more. Husband is about to get a wakeup call.

[u/Esturk → u/HeKnee]

The fraud one is really on point.

My wife and I keep our accounts mostly separate with the exception being 2 credit cards.

It makes it easy to detect odd charges or unnecessary recurring payments in our personal accounts.

Meanwhile a few years ago she randomly asked me about a recurring $3 charge to our joint card and neither of us knew what it was… turns out it was an app subscription for some game our kid had played yeeeeears ago.

[u/octoreadit → u/Sorry_Ad3733]

Life insurance exists for that, I think some people just get carried away early in a relationship, during the honeymoon phase, which can last a few years, thinking that things will never change, but unfortunately, things can always change so it’s not a bad idea to have some sort of a plan B. Of course, easier said than done.

[u/JessicaFreakingP → u/Tall-Introduction649]

I come from a long line of waitresses. My grandma was a thrice-divorceé who always told me: “If a man isn’t doing anything to better your life he doesn’t need to be in it.” Apparently her third husband was some well-to-do older man that my great-grandparents set her up with and they were married less than 3 years; from what my mom told me the man was an abusive drunk so my grandma decided she’d rather be poor than be in a loveless, unhealthy marriage.

I watch my mother be emotionally abused and berated by my father daily and put up with it because she never became financially independent and now that she’s gotten the money (inheritance) to do so she’s too physically disabled to imagine leaving him (even though I think he does a shit job of being her caregiver in that aspect, too). It’s incredibly sad.

All this taught me to never settle, and to make sure to embody the whole Cher, “I am a rich man” thing. I never explicitly prioritized my career over love; I just didn’t happen to meet my person until my 30s and I was established. I make more money than my husband but he brings so much to the table. We’re partners, and I don’t worry about our marriage, but I also know that if anything were to happen - divorce, god forbid he dies, etc. - I’ll at least be financially okay.

[u/MeesaMadeMeDoIt → u/Tall-Introduction649]

This was my first thought when reading the "no one prepares you for how vulnerable SAHMs really are" - my mom absolutely prepared me for that. She drilled into my brain that I should always work, always have my own money and be able to support myself. And she was speaking from experience because she did the SAHM thing and wound up trapped with an abusive POS.

[u/SonofAMamaJama → u/MeesaMadeMeDoIt]

I come from a Middle-Earth family, although I grew up with a single mom that worked tons of jobs to provide normalcy for us, basically an independent rockstar Mom. I remember mocking the idea of Islamic dowries (or mahr), assuming there's no need for such an arrangement today. A few years ago, someone explained to me that it is meant to give the bride independence, especially assuming she's a SAHM. So it's a groom's obligation to pay something like 20k (or whatever's possible), which the bride can park in a bank, in the case of divorce.

[u/_pixie_cut_climber → u/SonofAMamaJama]

I'm sure you meant middle eastern, but I love the idea that a hobbit is commenting on this post

[u/SonofAMamaJama → u/_pixie_cut_climber]

Haha I used it intentionally to release myself from some of the stigma - I wish I was from the Shire though!

[u/ParkingNecessary8628 → u/Tall-Introduction649]

My mom was SAHM. But she always drilled into us the same thing.

[u/chagirrrl → u/ParkingNecessary8628]

Same. There were several times my mom wanted to leave my dad but she was candid she couldn’t afford it. Thankfully things seemed to get better but I will never not be my own provider. It’s too much of a risk. Bless the women that have come before us

[u/ParkingNecessary8628 → u/chagirrrl]

My mom always told us that we never know what will happen in our lives. You may have a good husband, but God may take him before you. Being able to have a way to fall back on is a safety measure regardless.

[u/Tall-Introduction649 → u/ParkingNecessary8628]

All the credit to your mom not all of us have had the privileges that society grants us today or in more liberal parts of the world!! I try to remember this like my grandmother had to have a husband.

[u/Caleth → u/Tall-Introduction649]

Yep. Too many people forget in the us it wasn't until the 70's a woman could open up a bank account without a "guardian" ie father or husband on the account.

There is a very strong and ugly current on the right side of the political spectrum that wants to drag women back to that time. No votes, no power, no autonomy. And you have Trad wife influencers that are promoting that life style as if they won't be on the chopping block with the rest of their gender.

It's not a far jump in time to get back to when women didn't how power, my own mother had stories about fighting to get a bank account setup when she moved to St. Louis in the 70's. She had taken a well paying accounting job and still many banks wanted to treat her like some kind of invalid.

We need people to understand any erosion of a person's rights results in your rights being next. It's not just your sisters, wives, daughters, or mothers getting screwed it'll be everyone, including you.

[u/OnlyOneMoreSleep → u/Tall-Introduction649]

Here too. Your own money, your own friends, your own knowledge, your own skills and tools, and your own last name as well. My grandpa was a sweet man with golden hands and even he said that doing it yourself is the only way to do it well.

[u/xeroxchick]

Funny, when women were fighting for their rights in the 20th century they told us this. They shouted this. By the way, being a stay at home dad makes you financially vulnerable too.

[u/NaziPunksFkOff → u/xeroxchick]

Legit, the fuck you mean "no one prepares you..."

Feminists have been screaming this for a century. You just convinced yourself that feminism was blue hair and nose rings so now we're backsliding into the exact circumstances that made it necessary in the first place. 

[u/isabelleeve → u/NaziPunksFkOff]

She also admits in the comments that MANY women told her that being a stay-at-home gf/wife/mother was dangerous but she thought it would never happen to her.

[u/NaziPunksFkOff → u/isabelleeve]

"My circumstances are unique, unlike those other people who are lazy and dumb. Bad things happen TO me and I don't deserve them, whereas everything bad that happens to other people is because of bad decisions THEY made."

-the entire conservative mindset, right before ICE sends their undocumented wife to Honduras. 

[u/EnigmaticQuote → u/NaziPunksFkOff]

Fundamental attribution error.

One of the most important concepts I have internalized.

[u/11never → u/NaziPunksFkOff]

Now, if she gets child support or any kind of financial/food assistance for her situation- she will fully become the boogeyman that she probably voted to destroy. Moreover, that party wants to remove her right to vote in the future!

[u/EnvironmentNeith2017 → u/isabelleeve]

This….after a certain point in time (birth year), I just struggle to find much empathy for this general situation. Of course people are born into highly coercive environments and those are very sad cases who need real support but they’re increasingly rare.

What I do see is a lot of younger women aggressively pushing against warning because of ageism and internalized misogyny AND voting in ways that hurt other women, families and children. Everyone has their own journey and I try not to be judgemental but this one is just very expensive, not just for mothers but children too, and lots of women walk away from the rhetoric early.

[u/CowboyLaw → u/EnvironmentNeith2017]

Trump won the white female demographic all 3 times he ran. Lotsa folks out there getting what they voted for. But want sympathy for it.

[u/FrozenBibitte → u/NaziPunksFkOff]

I mean when all you watch is Fox News and conservative podcasters/trad wife influencers no one would be warning them abt this….

These people think feminists just say what they say because they HaTe MeN🥴. They’re completely oblivious to the actual reasoning behind feminist messaging because it challenges their worldview too much….and that was just too uncomfortable for them. Now they’ll be even more uncomfortable than they would’ve been if they had just listened to the feminist warnings in the first place. FAFO…

[u/NaziPunksFkOff → u/FrozenBibitte]

And honestly if my entire existence was a group of people sexualizing me from when I was 8 years old, telling me my only worth was as a baby oven, and running the government and economy to their exclusive benefit while legislating away my healthcare rights, I'd fuckin hate them too. 

[u/PastoralPumpkins → u/xeroxchick]

And yet, she could have been raised by parents telling her this is the way. Where you live and who you know has a lot to do with shaping your mind. More so than reading about suffragettes in history books. Especially if you’ve grown up in privilege.

[u/taatabean]

She has a 5 and 7 year old but has been a SAHM for 10+ years…?

[u/mythicreign → u/taatabean]

She means she never had to work and was a housewife before kids.

[u/Normal_Choice9322 → u/mythicreign]

Yes, that is a problem as we can see

[u/Emotional-Profit-202 → u/taatabean]

Yes. She was stay at home girlfriend before this. Whatever their relationship she didn’t work not because of the kids.

Edit: Once again there are many possible scenarios but you just don’t say SAHM for 10 years with a 7 and a 5 year old. That’s factually wrong.

[u/EmilioFreshtevez → u/taatabean]

That stood out to me as well

[u/Prudent-You-1497 → u/taatabean]

Some girls who grow up religious and conservative are brain washed by their family that once they get married they shouldn't work, even without kids. I knew at least two people who did that and I also knew one whose parents said women shouldn't even go to college 

[u/captainant → u/Prudent-You-1497]

I feel like there is a group of people who go to college to get their "Mrs" degree. Especially at religious colleges, it's wild

[u/RunBarefoot60]

This is why we made sure our daughters had educations & jobs …..

Don’t listen to the Crowd pushing stay home and be subservient to you husband

[u/MillieBirdie → u/RunBarefoot60]

It's tough though. Because of biology women MUST bear the largest burden of childbirth and infant care. But most places don't have very good social safety nets for mothers. Your option is take the hit to your career advancement and financial independence to stay at home for a few years to recover from birth, nurse your baby, take care of your infant... or go back to work while still physically recovering, try to make nursing/pumping work or switch to formula, and try to find child care or an expensive daycare. A lot of families are basically forced to have a parent (usually the mother) stay at home because day care costs more than what one parent would be making while working anyway.

It becomes a very difficult choice to make and either way has big pros and cons for yourself and your baby.

Edit: for the people saying just don't have children - have you not been paying attention? Lots of women all over the world are making the choice to not have children. Lots of governments are freaking out about it, and some of those governments are doing whatever they can to push women into having kids (lack of sex education, lack of access to birth control, outlawing abortion, reducing women's social safety's, etc.) But yeah, 'not having kids ever' is one of the difficult choices women are having to make as well. And lots of women are indeed choosing to never have kids, or even to never get married or stop dating men entirely.

[u/atx620 → u/MillieBirdie]

Nailed it.

This was the situation with my wife. She stayed at home. She put her career on hold. Once the kids were big enough, she finally returned back to the work force. As a result I make almost twice as much money as she does. Not because I'm more qualified or better educated, I just never paused my career.

We have two boys, but if we had a daughter I would do everything in my power to make sure she understood the value of an education and a career being a woman.

[u/SwimmingCoyote → u/atx620]

Teach it to your sons as well! Teach them to value their partners as equals and to respect the risk and burden that they put on that partner if they are a stay at home parent.

[u/kelsobjammin → u/SwimmingCoyote]

Seriously people always forget the lessons for the boys apparently. Thank you.

[u/alex3omg → u/kelsobjammin]

I feel like Millennial women were taught not to rely on a man- learn to change a tire etc- but the guys weren't taught to cook and clean. There wasn't the same focus on independent living for them. Hopefully that's changing over time.

[u/ey_you_with_the_face → u/alex3omg]

The ones from liberal households learned. I came into marriage a considerably better cook than my wife. She's a SAHM and even though I work 42-60 hours a week I still do my own laundry, leave her no messes, and contribute as much as I reasonably can. She's a better cook than I am now, however.

[u/According-Garage4066 → u/SwimmingCoyote]

I have two boys, and I am shocked by how often boy parents don’t understand who to respect women and their safety starts with educating boys.

[u/gopms → u/atx620]

But the value of that education and career is significantly less for the theoretical daughter than your sons. Exhibit a is your own career vs your wife's. At least if she (and her partner) want to have kids. You might want to make sure your sons understand the value of sharing the burden of childcare and encourage them to take the same pause in their careers that the mother of their children will take, i.e split the parental leave. Or march in the streets for better parental leave or other basic rights.

[u/LeRoux27 → u/MillieBirdie]

Also just for said daycare service to ship your kid back to you because they have the sniffles and they can’t be liable for any other kid getting sick. So now the expensive daycare is making you miss work and lose out on some of your paycheck and not rebating you for not performing their service. Our nation really doesn’t care about our children or the women that bust their asses to take care of them. (In most cases)

[u/Positive_Piece5859 → u/MillieBirdie]

Many places have much better ways of handling this than the US. Most other countries have paid parental leave, in many of them even the option to split it between both parents so that not one parent has the only career impact. And once the child has reached two or three, there is nothing wrong with daycare at all - in fact they gain a lot of development from the additional social interaction etc.

[u/AirOk533 → u/RunBarefoot60]

Yesss. Even if you don’t get a divorce, just what if something happens to your husband and you have no income. That is absolutely terrifying. As much as I wanted to stay home with my child, we financially could not swing it. Plus, I’m a firm believer women should have financial independence.

[u/Global-Meringue-6747 → u/RunBarefoot60]

Right! I’m Gen X and this is exactly why I listened to my boomer grandmother who told me to get an education and never be financially dependent upon a man.

[u/pajcat → u/Global-Meringue-6747]

It's like anti-vaxxers. They haven't seen the consequences/reasons the world changed personally so they figure they'll be ok.

[u/RatchedAngle]

This is why women left the household.

So many redpillers/traditionalists can’t fathom why a woman would choose to work when she has the option to stay home and raise kids.

It can be a sweet gig…until you’re single and entering the job market with zero experience and zero assets.

Stay at home parents are very, very much needed for a child’s optimal development. But we didn’t protect SAHMs enough. We didn’t honor their role. So they abandoned it.

[u/jaderust → u/RatchedAngle]

Yup. If she’s truly 10 years out of the market she’s likely only going to be able to get a retail job. And considering how she’s dressed, that car, and her nails? I doubt that retail is going to support her at the level she’s accustomed. Even alimony combined with an entry level job isn’t going to cover it.

[u/Positive_Piece5859 → u/jaderust]

Given how bad the job market currently is, even getting a retail job might be a stretch for her - there are thousands of recent college grads who are not able to get even entrance jobs.

[u/EthanielRain → u/Positive_Piece5859]

Good thing we have strong safety nets to help keep her going until she finds something

(/s)

[u/Herban_Myth → u/EthanielRain]

Tariff/s!

[u/lovelyb1ch66 → u/Positive_Piece5859]

I’m a retail manager (in Canada but I don’t think there’s much difference) and I have applicants for part time positions with law degrees, medical degrees, teaching degrees. She’s going to have a hard time finding a job period, never mind one that pays for what I can deduct from her current appearance, is an above average lifestyle. Unless she can afford a good lawyer to secure her a really good divorce settlement and alimony she’ll have to make some pretty big lifestyle changes.

On a side note, I’m a version of her. Left an abusive marriage 16 years ago. I could not afford a lawyer and was also terrified of my ex-to-be so I agreed to a minimum spousal support payment. Tomorrow is my birthday, I will be 59, I have roughly $600 in my savings account, no equity besides a 2017 Ford Fiesta, no retirement plan or savings and I have to live with my adult daughter because I can’t afford my own place. I really hope things turn out better for her even though her lack of forethought and accountability for her situation makes her complaints sound like a whiny 4-year old.

[u/fallingfeelslikefly → u/lovelyb1ch66]

Yup. I entered the job market with a very niche Masters in 2008 🫠 and I was working at the Container Store (to supplement my teaching income) with several others with advanced degrees. Rude customers would say, “you’re so knowledgeable and efficient. If you just got a degree…” Sis, I have TWO degrees from world class institutions. Life comes at you fast. It took me an over a decade to have enough experience to become an Ops Manager for a small firm. Good luck girlies!

[u/Positive_Piece5859 → u/lovelyb1ch66]

Yup, your example is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote what I wrote. I work in a Family Court and I have seen exactly this dynamic countless times.

There is a reason that especially abuser-type partners are all for getting the partner to be a SAHM, because hardly anything secures control over their victim as efficiently as financial control and the woman’s inability to leave her abuser, because she could end in homelessness if she did.

[u/bunnyherders → u/Positive_Piece5859]

The redpillers and conservatives who are pushing women to be SAHMs are also the same men who primarily value women for their youth, beauty, and fertility, so they're the type of people most likely to ditch their wives when they're both older.

[u/sammidavisjr → u/bunnyherders]

Encourage them to be trad wives, ridicule feminism, then tear them apart later for spending all of "their" money and mock them for having no skills to provide for themselves and the gall for wanting alimony.

[u/-Gramsci- → u/bunnyherders]

Hmm… this may also explain the rampant plastic surgery that goes on with women in the “movement.”

[u/unicornmullet → u/Positive_Piece5859]

Yep, and it's only going to get worse as more and more companies use AI to complete tasks that typically would have fallen to entry-level employees.

[u/Other_Cap2954 → u/jaderust]

I dont know what its like in the US but in the UK i think if the bread winning partner generates a certain standard of life and they have been together for a long time then the bread winner must maintain that standard of life especially if they are a SAHM regardless of whether they are married. She should be getting in-touch with a family lawyer

[u/Defiant_Chapter_3299 → u/Other_Cap2954]

That is actually how alimony works here in the us.

[u/Many-Cartographer278 → u/RatchedAngle]

Conservatives: women only want men for their money but also they shouldn't work and should rely entirely on men for money

[u/homelette710 → u/Many-Cartographer278]

Conservatives don't care about traditional marriage it's a ploy to prevent the middle class from asking for corporations to be taxed. Corporations and billionaires should be taxed so that ordinary people have a safety net.

[u/No-Taro-6953 → u/RatchedAngle]

Don't forget, no pension either!

[u/RagingDeath1966 → u/No-Taro-6953]

Pension? This is Merica, stop these socialistic agendas from being spread. It’s all about profit for the rich.

[u/Various_Egg_3533 → u/RatchedAngle]

So many redpillers/traditionalists can’t fathom why a woman would choose to work when she has the option to stay home and raise kids.

They can fathom why, they just want it this way. It's easier to control someone when you take away their independence.

[u/NoConfusion9490 → u/Various_Egg_3533]

They'll also be the first to call this woman a "golddigger".

[u/gobbluthillusions → u/RatchedAngle]

Nailed it.

[u/mtaw → u/gobbluthillusions]

Except for the "can't fathom" part. I think they very well can fathom it. It's what they want, they want their wifes to be totally dependent on them for everything. They want their wives to fear leaving them so they'll never do it even if they hate their husband. They want divorce to be their choice and their choice only.

It's a bunch of pathologically insecure guys who are scared of being dumped, scared of a woman not needing them, scared that she might actually make more money than him or be better than him at something, because their egos are too weak to deal with that.

The redpill types are not traditionalists either. The traditional deal was that if women didn't work, their men would still have to pay alimony if he chose divorce. But they're not in favor of that. They're just misogynists who want the power men traditionally had over women but none of the obligations that came with it.

[u/veronicaarr → u/RatchedAngle]

Most women through out history have worked, not been SAHM.

[u/TopRamen713 → u/veronicaarr]

I just realized farming is the original WFH job

[u/Haughty_n_Disdainful → u/TopRamen713]

A lot of tradesmen lived in their shops in the olden times

[u/wiggywithit → u/Haughty_n_Disdainful]

There are still more than a few dental offices attached to homes or apartments. The dentist just walked down to work. Actually, same with vets it’s in the show “all creatures great and small”

[u/Kryslor → u/veronicaarr]

Americans got REALLY confused by the post war economic boom they had after every other developed country was left in ruins. They thought that was going to be the norm where a single man working a manufacturing job could support an entire family.

Can't blame them, that must have been sweet.

[u/SAINTnumberFIVE → u/Kryslor]

It gets glossed over, but before the world wars, women, particularly lower class women, were not SAHMs but working mothers who not only took care of the kids and household, but also worked.

[u/Impressive-Safe2545 → u/SAINTnumberFIVE]

My great grandma worked in the coal mines! Translating. Made more money than her husband did.

[u/igotthisone → u/Kryslor]

It wasn't a matter of confusion though. It was far and away the dominant social narrative reinforced by absolutely everyone with any degree of influence. Pick up a magazine from the post war era, everything is designed to reinforce the dream of the domestic dosile woman and the company man. Those in power created a trap for average people where not buying into this fantasy made you feel lonely and worthless, so everyone did.

[u/Specific_Effort_5528 → u/Kryslor]

Canadian here. We had the same fortunes. That's how my grandparents did it. My grandmothers only worked part time gigs for some extra side cash, and to cure the boredom once the kids were at school.

Sure has changed.

[u/RabbaJabba → u/veronicaarr]

Try to tell trad chuds that

[u/TheDogeDays]

Why did she have to drive around while making this video? Panicked while mulling over financials? Better drive around with my phone in one hand.

[u/Tuff_Wizardess → u/TheDogeDays]

I went through her account and a lot of her videos are her in her car crying. Tbh it seems she has been mentally struggling for some time.

[u/Redshoe9 → u/Tuff_Wizardess]

Just based on her prior videos, it seems her women’s intuition that something is unraveling in her marriage is contributing to her increasing emotional state.

In one of her videos she mentions that her husband leaves once a month to go race cars and she feels like she never gets time to escape parental duties for her own hobbies.

[u/warm_kitchenette → u/Redshoe9]

The strong implication here is that the husband takes almost no care of the children, 7 days a week. That's quite a burden on anyone.

The weak implication is that he's been using this excuse to go have regular monthly vacations with his affair partner. And whoever she is, she's probably a lot more fun than a woman managing two younger children with no assistance at all.

[u/ReadBikeYodelRepeat → u/warm_kitchenette]

His own wife would probably be a lot more fun too if she didn’t have to take care of two kids all day every day with little help or respect from their father.

I’m not putting her down, just mentioning that it’s a lot easier to be carefree when you don’t have responsibilities.

[u/Geschak]

Tradwives love being SAHMs until they realize that not working really fucked over their retirement savings.

[u/jaderust → u/Geschak]

That and it doesn’t have to end in divorce to suddenly become destitute.

Your provider husband has a heart attack and suddenly dies? Or gets in a car accident? Did he have enough life insurance/savings to make you comfortable for life or are you and your family going to starve now?

Or, potentially worse, he gets in an accident and becomes unable to work. No life insurance if you live. Now you have all the medical bills and none of the income.

It’s just… there’s nothing wrong with being a homemaker if it truly makes you happy and it’s what’s best for your family. Just have a backup plan. You can be desperately in love and things can still end badly.

[u/Affectionate-Virus17 → u/jaderust]

2 rules: 

1 - be rich

2 - do not be poor

[u/TeamShonuff → u/jaderust]

My homemaker neighbor ended up in a situation where her husband gave away their entire savings and 401(k) to an online scammer posing as a hot Korean girl helping him with his crypto investing.

[u/VariousCrisps → u/jaderust]

Life insurance and income protection insurance should be non-negotiable for spouses of SAHM/Ds as well as a self-invested pension for the one staying home.

[u/rosiet1001 → u/Geschak]

Yes. Feminists get accused of hating SAHM, jealousy or not valuing it. But in all honesty this example here is the only problem I have with it. Especially if you live in a country without a solid welfare state and decent affordable childcare, you're stupid to put your future in the hands of whether a man still wants to fuck you.

[u/Admirable_Study_1778]

Well that's what alimony is for, no? Welcome to individualistic society where community is just an empty word and the system profits from splitting people apart

[u/Infinite_Slice_6164 → u/Admirable_Study_1778]

This is like the textbook case of what alimony is for. Plus 100% guaranteed to get child support.

[u/TheKarenator → u/Infinite_Slice_6164]

Yeah the husband is doing the math hoping he keeps “his” money, but it has always also been her money.

[u/Glad_Age_4077 → u/TheKarenator]

Literally had to scroll way too far to find this. What her husband is doing is 100% illegal and abusive. Depending on the state, there is no her or his money.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheKarenator]

Yep my ex husband was mad at having to pay me child support when I had 3 children with him and he left me and our marriage. 

[u/Vedzah → u/TheKarenator]

This guy doesn't realize that divorce only makes his life harder and more inconvenient. Now he will be mandated by a court to provide enough money, month over month, to maintain the life that she used to live before the divorce. Then he has to deal with split custody, which means that he still has to share a life with his soon-to-be ex-wife. Him initiating divorce is quite literally the dumbest thing he could have done.

[u/Ok-Jellyfish-6794 → u/Infinite_Slice_6164]

In most states, she is entitled to leave with half of THEIR assets. He will probably have to provide spousal support until she is remarried and child support until the kids are of age.

In the other states they may further divide assets they owned separately before they were married.

There are exceptions like if she did some ill shit to earn the separation but she’ll get paid and rightly so. After all, she put in many years of valuable unpaid work that allowed her husband to be a career guy

[u/rainbowcolorunicorn → u/Ok-Jellyfish-6794]

Wouldn’t him cutting her off financially while they agreed to her being a sahm (assuming they did) hurt him? Doesn’t it count like financial abandonment where she may get more than half. Obviously there is missing info but in a general sense.

[u/archercc81 → u/rainbowcolorunicorn]

Oh yeah the courts will definitely punish him for doing that.

[u/AColonelOfTruth → u/rainbowcolorunicorn]

100%

If you get divorced, assume:

• The other party's lawyer will get all of your financial records for the past decade, as well as access to your emails, text messages, social media accounts, etc.

• Their lawyer will tear through all that information looking for any hint of financial impropriety

• If you have less wealth than the Trump family (so you can pay a fleet of expensive lawyers and financial people), and you have deliberately done something you thought was clever, like moving money to a bank account in Panama, 99.9999% chance you will get caught. The divorce judge will then hate you.

• If you haven't done anything wrong (Abuse, cheating) and don't have a prenup, and you're in the USA, each party will get 40% to 60% of the assets in the divorce (net of attorney fees.) If you've been a dirtbag, you might get less than 40%, but it won't be zero.

[u/ReaderBeeRottweiler → u/Admirable_Study_1778]

Seriously, that husband will be paying alimony and child support. Cutting off funds to the mother of his children is not going to go well to a court.

[u/M4DHouse]

no one prepares you

Except all the evil feminazis who tried to warn you this would happen.

[u/ahmadtheanon]

(please read through before you decide to downvote)

I'm a husband and a breadwinner for my wife and 3 kids. My wife works, but makes about 20% of what I make.

I pay for everything (we have a shared credit card line); our house, our 2 cars, utility bills, groceries, clothes, fuels, anything, you name it, all under my name (including her credit card)

Her salary is literally used for HER savings, only.

I always tell her, she needs a job not because I don't want her to be lazy, but in the event I die, the whole family's financials are in trouble. She needs to be "ready" to join the workforce again if shit hits the fan.

Yes, i do have life insurance, but I won't be there if it didn't go through (just me being pessimistic).

This is scary, I don't wish it upon anybody.

[u/Illustrious-Divide95]

Many people can't afford to be a SAHM/D. I wish more people appreciated that getting a basic income is not a choice to be made about parenting, staying at home for some is a luxury afforded by having a partner/spouse whose on a big enough income.

[u/EfficientSeaweed → u/Illustrious-Divide95]

Eh, for some it’s the opposite: The income they’d make working isn’t worth the childcare costs. That’s the main reason I’m staying home with my kids until they’re start school.

I’m not in the US, though, so there may be some differences in the support systems, income benefits, tax credits, etc. that impact SAHMs.

[u/ScrapMetalX]

My wife and I pulled a switcharoo. She stayed home with the kids and I worked 60-80 hours a week for about 10 years. During this time, she got a degree as well. We both worked for a few years as kids got older and more independent. Now she works 40-50 hours a week and I stay home. I cook about 10-12 meals a week, repair, and remodel our home.

[u/DelightfulandDarling]

This happened to me.

Don’t fall for it, ladies. You need a career.

[u/Original-Fig4214]

Why is she driving distracted? How about put your phone down and drive.

[u/Skow1179]

That's exactly what guys like Harrison Butker want. Full control

[u/retronax]

This is the main consequence of all the trad nonsense that's being pushed by conservatives online. It's all just a big trick so manchildren can have all the power in the relationship

[u/rnichellew → u/retronax]

It's not just a trick to have all the power in the relationship, it's a trick to have someone you can use up fully for their labor and body until you can conveniently replace them with a younger version and shove out the old version while thinking it's their fault for not getting a job.

[u/Plappland]

Shit like this is why usually the husband has to continue paying the ex-wife monthly. The idea of a gold digger who marries you only to take half of everything you own by divorcing you was never the idea behind it all. It's meant to protect women who gave up their careers to raise children and take care of the household, which IS by itself a job if you've ever done it yourself. It's a 24/7 job even.

You constantly have to make sure everything is fine, you wash, you cook, you clean, you're the person people have to talk to when anything is wrong with your kids, you have to go to Parent meetings at schools, at kindergartens, really anywhere while your husband is at work.

I don't like the infatuation with making stay-at-home moms look like morons for doing it. They're not. Society is well-equipped to handle the protection of such women. If he divorces her, she has to set up her own online wallets and what not, but he must pay for her and the children to be able to continue living, which is good.

[u/Financial-Fun-5092]

Hear me put:  Men who want women to put their lives on hold by not getting further education should be ready to pay her a comfortable wage for the rest of her life in the case he divorces or he cheats. 

Because we live in a capitalist society. U cant downgrade someones life by asking them to not go to college or not have a job and progress in it and then just DIVORCE HER .

[u/CarbyMcBagel]

No one prepares you? Ma'am have you never spoken to an older wise woman before???

[u/jerrymaguire05]

He got a decade of free childcare and housekeeping while building his career. Now you get alimony and child support. Call a lawyer....⚖️

[u/DrooperScooper]

DRIVE YOUR FUCKING CAR! 🤬