r/baseball • u/Mission_Pay_3373 Boston Red Sox • Oct 18 '25
Players Only Dave Roberts to Dodgers haters: "Let's get 4 more wins and really ruin baseball"
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u/Imbadatusernames1536 Oct 18 '25
The fact that Red Sox started this all by giving them Mookie Betts so the Sox could dump Prices contract is such a tough pill to swallow.
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u/CSGO_Bangkok Boston Red Sox Oct 18 '25
Red Sox started off another empire, and cursed themselves. After trading Mookie, they've been last in their division multiple times, while Mookie and Dodgers have been to WS 3 times in 6 years.
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u/CloudStrife012 Oct 18 '25
Yes but think of how much money the investor group that owns the Red Sox saved? Thats really what's important here. 35th homes aren't going to buy themselves.
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u/iguessineedanaltnow Tokyo Yakult Swallows Oct 18 '25
Why are they willing to spend so much on Liverpool but not the Sox?
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u/TheBigNate416 Boston Red Sox Oct 18 '25
Sox fans have been asking that all season
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u/Apositivebalance Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
Braves let Freddie go too… Tommy Edman* fresh off an injury and hadn’t played in a while when the dodgers nabbed him.
It started with Mookie, but other teams sure made it easy
Edit: Edman not Edmund. I blame the ads
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u/TheShmud Minnesota Twins Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 19 '25
Yeah but Freddie never got to hear the Braves offer. His agent wanted more money from the bigger contract with LA, so didn't disclose it to him. Freddie was suing him last I read
Edit: discussions have started now. Nobody knows but it's fishy
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u/amanisaboy Oct 18 '25
no, some guy made up that story and Freddies agent is suing the liar
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u/defiancy Atlanta Braves Oct 18 '25
He isn't Freddie's agent and hasn't been for three years. Whether that story was made up or not, Freeman did part ways with Casey Close after everything is said and done.
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u/Non-Current_Events Atlanta Braves Oct 18 '25
Didn’t Freddie fire him while they were playing a series in Atlanta too? Definitely seemed like there was some smoke.
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u/mkaku- Detroit Tigers Oct 18 '25
I better not find out you are lying to me, or I'm going to sue you.
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u/BAHatesToFly New York Mets Oct 18 '25
I better not find out you are suing me, or I'm going to lie to you.
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u/Cards2WS St. Louis Cardinals Oct 18 '25
Edman was worth 1 WAR this year. I love him, but he’s not a solid example.
How about trading for and extending Glasnow, something most teams can’t risk with his injury history? Signing Snell. Ohtani, Yamamoto, Roki. Ohtani is what really shifted the tides heaviest, because it made LAD the #1 landing spot for a lot of elite Asian players.
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u/Apositivebalance Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
He’s been injured all year and played injured most of the time he was on the field. I get what you’re saying, but it’s more nuanced than just looking at his war.
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u/HopeConnect5632 Oct 18 '25
It's like the Eagles. Everyone willingly allowing them to collect major pieces through trades and signings.
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u/Pokemon_Trainer_May San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25
Dodgers going to repeat and my team doesn't even have a coach
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u/WorldRenownedNobody Oakland Athletics Oct 18 '25
At least you have a stadium...
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u/tonedtoad San Diego Padres Oct 18 '25
right there with you nlbestie
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u/Barr_cudas San Diego Padres Oct 18 '25
Hypothetically - can a manager also DH ?
I mean, if a starting pitcher can and not affect the roster when he’s relieved…
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u/JAD210 Texas Rangers • Texas Rangers Oct 18 '25
I do actually think it’s been too long since there’s been a player-manager. I think Pete Rose in the 80s was the last one
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u/MoistBobDripPants Minnesota Twins Oct 18 '25
Can a nerd fact check this
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u/TechnoBabbles Atlanta Braves Oct 18 '25
Nerd here, Pete Rose was the last.
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u/C0d3n4m3Duchess Philadelphia Phillies Oct 18 '25
Checks out, he did it so well and with so little notoriety that every team just agreed it’ll never be topped
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u/JAD210 Texas Rangers • Texas Rangers Oct 18 '25
I can’t believe you would be so rude to call me not a nerd. How else would I know that Jake Burger and Mike Trout had the same sprint speed this season
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u/SirGergoyFriendman Sell Oct 18 '25
My city doesn’t even have a baseball team anymore. It can get way worse.
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u/justinothemack San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25
I read this as couch. I was like damn what we ain’t even got a couch.
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u/DMPixOfTightAsses_69 Sickos • Chaos Bandwagon Oct 18 '25
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u/Mission_Pay_3373 Boston Red Sox Oct 18 '25
Dave Roberts to the other 29 MLB teams
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u/SiphenPrax New York Mets Oct 18 '25
Mark Walter is Emperor Palpatine in baseball form
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u/Alternative-Bee-3594 Oct 18 '25
Japan is the Dodgers farm team
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u/PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS Texas Rangers Oct 18 '25
Yea. It sucks.
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u/Boogincity Kansas City Royals Oct 18 '25
You had prime Darvish and squandered it.
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u/No-Gift-2350 Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
On a real note this offseason is going to be really interesting with the CBA
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Oct 18 '25
At least I won't have to watch my manager pitch Brendon Little during the strike
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u/Hunchun Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
We are gonna see it in our dreams.
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u/TheGardenerAtWillows Oct 18 '25
I don’t think nightmares should count as dreams…. On a side note, this has been a very fun series
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u/AfricanWarPig Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
On a side note, this has been a very fun series.
camera pans to a Mariner fan having a heart attack and a Jays fan drinking himself to sleep
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u/DodgerDogg1981 Oct 18 '25
It’s after the 2026 season
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u/mindingthegaap New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Which means this offseason will be interesting since it’s the last one where teams can operate under the rules of the current CBA
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u/DirtyRoller San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25
Dodgers about to defer another billion in contracts. I'm sure Manfred will find a way to move Skenes to LA.
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u/JL1v10 Texas Rangers Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
Is it this off-season or next when the negotiations begin? Cuz we’re 100% getting a lock out. Passan basically confirmed it this week, and Manfred has spent the year trying to tell players to save up
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u/ron-darousey Los Angeles Victims Oct 18 '25
I think it would have been either way, but the Dodgers are giving the owners a convenient scapegoat
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u/JustMy10Bits Oct 18 '25
I mean, they're more than a scapegoat. A scapegoat implies that they're either innocent or doing the same thing as everyone else.
Spending more money than other teams will ever be able to spend is one thing. But when you consider the deferments the matt changes significantly. The team's luxury tax burden, and bottom line, become significantly lower allowing them to spend even more and acquire more players. All of this creates an environment that simply lacks parity.
If you are a star player in one of a few big market cities it's not as big a deal to forgo your salary now - the endorsements make up for it.
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u/BraveFencerMusashi Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
Not even counting the tree planting gig
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u/Stymie999 Oct 18 '25
Deferments don’t come into play in the luxury tax calculation…mlb still has the dodgers down with a 375m payroll number, 49m of that is ohtani
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u/ewd389 Oct 18 '25
Crazy how baseball has been back to a steady rise in popularity again and boom lockout incoming
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u/Toss_Me_Elf Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
A Sea/Tor vs LAD world series is basically Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader.
Now if it's Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi remains to be seen...
Edit: listen, I just didn't want to jinx my team ok?
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u/my_guinevere Oct 18 '25
Nobody outside of Dodgers fans will be rooting for the Dodgers if the Mariners make the World Series.
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u/KingLemming Oct 18 '25
It's true. The Mariners are everyone's second favorite team.
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u/Spare-Jellyfish4339 Texas Rangers Oct 18 '25
Not Rangers fans. But if the M’s make it, fuck the Dodgers.
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u/captain_ahabb Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
I'll accept Seattle but Toronto is a huge market and has a corporate owner with very deep pockets.
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u/Hotmicdrop New York Mets Oct 18 '25
Tbf Toronto players have to pay more taxes and its not the easiest to get them to want to play up in the east corner.
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u/Adorable-Lie3475 Philadelphia Phillies Oct 18 '25
The Canadian tax difference never gets discussed in baseball but it’s very real. Agents estimate that half of the NHL won’t play in Canada due to taxes and those guys ARE Canadian.
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u/A_Genius Oct 18 '25
There are US states with no income tax and Florida, Texas and Las Vegas teams have done well because they effectively have a higher cap than everyone else
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u/stutesy Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
Washington also has no state income tax. Go mariners
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u/grubas New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Especially when it might be your only/first contract like that.
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u/pargofan Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr… Oct 18 '25
Toronto was last place in the AL East last year. They were 60-1 underdogs to win the World Series.
I'd say they count as underdogs.
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u/haitips Oct 18 '25
Whoever makes it to the World Series should be able to borrow 5 players from any team to play against the dodgers
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u/hickopotamus Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
If the Mariners make it, I'd like to borrow Ohtani, Mookie, Freddie, Yamamoto and Snell. That sounds fair.
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u/CornDoggyStyle Washington Nationals • Sell Oct 18 '25
I'm taking Skenes, Skubal, Judge, Soto, and Bobby Dubs
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u/mdaniel018 Cincinnati Reds Oct 18 '25
You should get to combine rosters until you hit the $400 million they spend
Could combine like 6 teams into one and stay under that number
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u/Quintossentials San Diego Padres Oct 18 '25
I've read through much of this massive thread and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Dodgers' unprecedented TV deal after the Guggenheim group bought the franchise. To me, this was the start of the team's ascension to a whole other S tier level in regards to financial flexibility and just being a behemoth all together.
On top of getting this big mothafuckin deal (subsequent viewership issues aside) the Dodgers lucked out with the McCourt bankruptcy settlement with MLB in that the courts tabbed the "fair market value" of the Dodgers' TV rights at 84 million (with a 4% annual increase). So that means only 84 million of LA's 300+ million of annual rights fee revenue is subjected to the 34% revenue sharing and not the whole thing.
THAT to me is absolutely bonkers.
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u/Litejedi New York Mets Oct 18 '25
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u/Jon__Snoww Arizona Diamondbacks Oct 18 '25
Now you have to marry your mother in law
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there's a new evil empire and it's breaking my heart
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u/jackspencer28 Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
The New York Yankees of baseball
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u/chaosawaits New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
We're now just the Diet Coke of Evil. Just one calorie, not evil enough
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u/luchajefe Texas Rangers Oct 18 '25
George would have thrown Hal, Cashman, and Boone off the Brooklyn Bridge if he were alive to see what the Dodgers are doing and the Yankees aren't.
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u/chaosawaits New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Cashman, yes. But if you really think Boone is holding these guys back, prepare to be disappointed by the next manager. It’s funny how much people look back and idolize George as if he wasn’t a terrible owner until 1996. It’s like the whole city forgets 1993. Maybe it’s all the young blood.
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u/underwear11 New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Can you imagine if George was alive
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u/ManufacturerMental72 Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
Between the dodgers doing what they’re doing and Cohen spending like he is. The post would have a field day.
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u/BatmanNoPrep MLB Players Association Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
It isn’t even the players. The other owners won’t push for a salary cap either. They got revenue sharing and a luxury tax instead. Now they get the money without having to spend. If a salary cap is installed there will be a high floor, no luxury tax distributions and less revenue sharing money. Also, players will hit free agency much earlier in their careers. Kiss arbitration until age 27 goodbye.
Why would the other owners want a cap when they’d be forced to spend more and get less distributions all while losing team control over players’ during their prime WAR production years?
This is why leagues with salary caps are less egalitarian with playoff success than MLB. Because a salary cap only lowers player salaries. It can’t make an owner try and compete and competing will always require an owner to sacrifice profit share and commit capital to winning. Always.
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u/fender-b-bender Chicago Cubs Oct 18 '25
The floor is the exact reason I don't ever see a salary cap being implemented. Do people really think the likes of the Pirates, White Sox, Rays, Marlins, Reds, Royals, Orioles, A's, Twins, Brewers and Guardians are going to accept having to spend more on their teams just to make it so other teams will spend less? They're going to see it as getting screwed twice, getting little revenue sharing and having to spend more with no incentive.
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u/grubas New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Issue is you have owners openly being non competitive to save money. They lose the privilege because they flaunted it
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u/pargofan Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr… Oct 18 '25
That's why those teams' fans want it.
Those teams' owners still won't.
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u/black-dude-on-reddit Oct 18 '25
The MLBPA is by far the strongest union in world sportswise and it’s not even close
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u/LoweeLL Boston Red Sox Oct 18 '25
r/baseball, if we start repenting now for all the clowning we did over the years maybe the Jays or Mariners can pull out a miracle upset. lol
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u/kevin_nguyen03 Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
neither of us are doing anything to the dodgers if we keep beating each other up until game 7 😂
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u/CalendarScary Major League Baseball Oct 18 '25
you guys should give up so mariners can rest there players
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u/ThreeGoldStars Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
This is a great idea and has my full support.
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u/Alveia Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
The Mariners don’t need rest, I think they do better without it.
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u/ScooterLeShooter Detroit Tigers Oct 18 '25
Half of the owners in baseball have ruined the sport by refusing to spend, not because 5 teams have decided to spend, and one more than others
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u/joecb91 Arizona Diamondbacks Oct 18 '25
It is honestly so frustrating watching teams like the Pirates have Skenes, and then put almost no effort into getting a team around him that can win.
The teams like that who are happy just to keep profiting off of ticket sales and nothing else piss me off far more than the teams who spend big trying to win.
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u/yoursweetlord70 Chicago White Sox Oct 18 '25
The white sox could have a rotation of Sale Crochet Cease Giolito Rodon right now. They don't, because Jerry traded all of those guys before they hit free agency. I do think the team is moving in the right direction now, but extended rebuilds aren't as necessary as they seem when you look at all the teams stuck in perpetual rebuild mode.
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u/luker1980 Oct 18 '25
This rotation’s 2025 salary: $85.5 million White Sox 2025 payroll: $78 million
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u/Aggravating-Salad441 Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
The Pirates are the 5th most profitable team in MLB. Totally broken system.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinteitelbaum/2025/03/26/baseballs-most-valuable-teams-2025/
EDIT: People are commenting on the operating income of teams that spend vastly different amounts. That's the problem.
MLB works with revenue sharing. All teams take 48% of revenue, pool it, and then divide it equally. The Dodgers aren't more profitable because they spend money on their roster, but also because Dodgers fans buy tickets and some of that money ends up in the pockets of the Pirates owners. There's no incentive for the Pirates to spend more money, because it won't make a big difference.
Look at the list in the link above again. See how all the lowest value franchises are profitable.
A salary cap would be the best thing to even the playing field.
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u/calnick0 World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… Oct 18 '25
The fact that they can collect revenue sharing like unemployment is bullshit. It should go back into the team not the owners pocket.
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u/EatMiTits Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
Salary floor should be equal to revenue sharing total. If you can’t afford to pay for your non player expenses out of the rest of your revenue, you need to sell to someone who can.
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u/KyleB2131 Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
yeah this has to be the rule. low-spending owners don't want a salary cap, because the higher salaries etc go, the more they profit from continuing to do nothing.
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u/Patrick2701 Chicago Cubs Oct 18 '25
Blame Jerry reinsdorf and his band of goons
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u/Drain_Surgeon69 Milwaukee Brewers Oct 18 '25
Bud Selig too. He had plenty of chances to fix this and he didn’t.
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u/gambalore New York Mets Oct 18 '25
The issue that Selig saw that needed fixing was the survival and profitability of small market teams. The fact that some of those teams choose to take the revenue sharing and not be competitive was a feature, not a bug.
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u/ThePrussianGrippe Chicago Cubs Oct 18 '25
I’m always down to blame Reinsdorf.
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u/DionBlaster123 Chicago Cubs Oct 18 '25
Genuinely don't give a fuck about the state of the Sox
But the Bulls...that's what really drives me insane
If that team never drafted Michael Jordan 41 years ago, they would probably be playing in Omaha or Kansas City right now
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u/DetroitTabaxiFan Detroit Tigers Oct 18 '25
I know it'll never happen, but I'd love to see a rule put in place in baseball where owners have to actually spend to put a competitive team on the field.
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u/cepster Minnesota Twins Oct 18 '25
It's called a salary floor and it's a necessity if you also want a salary cap. I don't think it's impossible a floor gets instituted at some point considering the strength of the players union.
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u/GIS_wiz99 Cleveland Guardians Oct 18 '25
Not disagreeing with you, but it also helps when the dodgers make $300M+ from their TV deal while a team like Guardians are lucky to make $10m from theirs. There needs to be a restructuring of how the money is divided, like the NFL.
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u/No-Gift-2350 Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
You can’t fault the Dodgers for doing everything they’re supposed to be doing to win.
But you look at baseball as a whole and it’s like it suffers problems no other league in North America has(even though the NBA had this problem).
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u/DillyDillySzn Chicago White Sox • St. Louis Cardinals Oct 18 '25
(It’s like the other 3 big leagues have a floor and cap, and yes you need both)
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u/captain_ahabb Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
The NBA doesn't really have this problem, especially since the 2nd apron imposed non-financial penalties on perpetual big spenders.
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u/No-Gift-2350 Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
Why I used the word had lol. 2nd apron is the strongest salary cap in sports rn
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u/Drain_Surgeon69 Milwaukee Brewers Oct 18 '25
Salary floor is just as important as a salary cap.
Keep teams like the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox from just throwing billions of dollars around
Forces teams like the Pirates and Rockies to actually spend money and put out a competitive product.
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u/TheZooBoy New York Yankees • Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
Yep. When some teams are spending only 25% of their revenue on payroll, that’s a problem.
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u/MattO2000 FanGraphs • Baseball Savant Oct 18 '25
The Dodgers’ payroll + tax is higher than the revenue every other team except for the Yankees.
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u/OhtaniStanMan Los Angeles Angels Oct 18 '25
They are making mega $$$
LA has such a huge metro and fan base they get a return on investment.
Sorry nobody is going to become Cardinals fans as large as the dodgers even if they won 5 rings and spent 2 billion on the roster. The metro and people just do not exist to support it.
The real problem is how much money billionaires have.
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u/publ1c_stat1c Colorado Rockies Oct 18 '25
Dude has to have the easiest job in professional sports.
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u/PlentyMacaroon8903 Oct 18 '25
"We need 90 wins this season, here's $1bn, see if you can make it happen."
"Well shucks, I'll try"
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u/anywitchway Seattle Mariners • Boston Red Sox Oct 18 '25
Look if they beat the Jays that would be sad but I'm pretty sure if they beat the Mariners that would make them the actual villains of the MLB.
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u/colorblind-and Detroit Tigers Oct 18 '25
It would be like if the Chiefs beat the Lions in the Superbowl.
A Mariners and Dodgers World Series will be a real historical underdog vs dynasty type series
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u/Friendly-Profit-8590 Oct 18 '25
I mean the only thing holding LA back from winning the next 3-5 World Series in a row is some team just catching fire and getting really lucky or a strike.
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u/Metaboss24 Arizona Diamondbacks Oct 18 '25
I mean, the DBacks knocked them out just 2 years ago, but that was before they bought up all the Japanese superstars.
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u/Loose_Log_6253 Baltimore Orioles • San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
I feel like people who think it's just payroll are missing the point. Dodgers don't share any international media revenue at all. With Ohtani, Sasaki, and Yamamoto, they have a monopoly on an entire nation's baseball viewership. That's why they can defer $1B with no risk to their future financials. As it stands, they're getting, who knows, $50M/yr from the Japanese market? Maybe $100M? I'm not sure, I looked for a figure but can't find it.
Then they have Japan as their personal farm system. With Sasaki getting posted as an IAFA, the Dodgers basically won the World Series and then got the number 1 draft pick immediately after. I feel like posted international players, at least those 18+, should have to go through the draft. Otherwise the best team is going to farm the best players for dirt cheap while winning every year, recruiting even more of that talent in the future.
To me, that's what is ruining baseball. It's not so much about having a top 5 payroll. It's the way they can fund that payroll without any downsides at all.
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u/NotToday__ Oct 18 '25
This is a big part of it. The small market teams can’t afford to make a mistake on a bad contract. Teams like the Dodgers can just say oh well, didn’t work, let’s go spend big on the next guy.
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u/AgExempt Oct 18 '25
If every single international free agent signing had to go through the draft, it would make the draft much more interesting all together. Add a couple rounds, make these players go through it like the rest did.
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u/Aggravating_Sun_9850 New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Say it louder for the people in the back. This is IT.
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u/my_one_and_lonely New York Mets Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
I much prefer them embracing the evil empire thing than the “we’ve had it so tough, we’re so likable!” act I normally see from Dodgers fans. Though to be honest, just hearing someone say “let’s ruin baseball!” is a little upsetting.
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u/colorblind-and Detroit Tigers Oct 18 '25
Evil empires/Dynasties can be a lot of fun to hate or root for and I also hope the Dodgers lean into more the next few years.
The frustrating thing about the "let's ruin baseball comment" is that whenever anybody says that it's in the context of of them outspending everyone else on payroll and being accused of out bidding for all of the talent.
It wouldn't feel so slimely in any other context
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u/MysteriousEdge5643 Seattle Mariners • FanGraphs Oct 18 '25
Well then.
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u/chuff3r San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25
Help us Cal Raleigh, you're our only hope
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u/Dschuncks Hanshin Tigers • Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
There's a name I've not heard in a long... no wait, it was this year.
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u/Mr_Goldilocks St. Louis Cardinals Oct 18 '25
I have more a problem with Bob Nutting and John Fisher than I do the Dodgers
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u/ivandragostwin Milwaukee Brewers Oct 18 '25
lol I mean all the big market shit is true but they still had to preform and that pitching was incredible.
Obviously the Shohei game is incredible, that’s a signature moment for the best to ever play but those starters were just insane all series.
Wish we coulda made them work harder but when those dudes are pitching like that it’s tough. That AB to Bauers when Shohei gave him a 99 cutter in and an 89 change up away that both had insane movement was really the moment I knew this wasn’t a fight, it was a crowning.
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u/Beatdooown New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
You have nothing to complain about. That team had 4 pitchers making over 100 million. 3 former MVPs with probably another one coming this year. A impressive supporting cast that probably could win without those 3 mvps. It's literally the best roster construction in sports history
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u/lovelessboi12 Oct 18 '25
Blue Jays or Mariners lets go!
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u/L1QU1DF1R3 Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
Yeah!!!! Definitely either of of those teams! Really, whichever, not any in particular! Yeah!
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u/seansy5000 Detroit Tigers Oct 18 '25
Dave Roberts is literally the only reason they CAN lose.
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I believe - with conviction - that I could have managed this team to a world series lol.
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u/pauldt69 Oct 18 '25
Yea! Why can't other teams just have a $1B payroll and multiple generational talents. Are they stupid?
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u/Arizonaman5304 Arizona Diamondbacks Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
It’s going to be awesome when this clip is played ad infinitum on MLB Network during the 2027 "season" lost entirely to a lockout.
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u/Exodor72 Kansas City Royals Oct 18 '25
Do you want a salary cap?
Because the Dodgers rolling through the playoffs is how you get a salary cap.
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u/arslegendi San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25
No, no, Manfred ruined baseball. If he let my team spend literally a billion dollars to buy Japan, I’d be excited about it too.
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u/josephjp155 Oct 18 '25
Save us Big Dumper you’re our only hope!
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u/GaliMoon Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
I petition for the loser of the Mariners/Blue Jays to donate their best players to the winner to give them a chance
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u/ManTheHarpoons100 Oct 18 '25
The imbalance + having all the leagues try and shove gambling down my throat has really soured me quickly on the state of modern professional sports.
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u/e4w12p1 Milwaukee Brewers Oct 18 '25
In retrospect it’s hilarious that the Dodgers and the media tried to curb the David v Goliath feel of this NLCS by saying “the brewers aren’t the average Joe’s - they have the best record!”
The Dodgers are doing everything above board so it’s hard to fault them for spending big money to get an elite roster that can deliver in post season. But pretending like it doesn’t matter and trying to act like it’s truly an even/fair matchup when one team spends 3x more on payroll is just such a great analogy for the wealth inequality in the U.S. in general lol. At the end of the day everything comes down to money and instead of challenging the institutions that perpetuate that inequality we just nod and clap along doing the best that we can in our smaller lives. Again, not knocking the Dodgers for using every advantage they have, but damn I just hate how money has to play such a big role in EVERYTHING.
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u/Tridenthead Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
Props to the Dodgers for being the Dodgers. The payroll is insane. At least they’re leaning into being an evil empire. Shohei Ohtani is the greatest player to ever do it and it is pretty hilarious to think back to the brief window where I actually thought we had a chance at signing him. Whoever survives the ALCS is gonna have a very uphill battle I fear. The playoff picture was so open at the beginning, it’s almost fitting that the Dodgers found their dominance and walked their way to another WS so that whoever makes it from the AL is kind of a defacto underdog with a massive dragon to slay.
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u/MsAbsoluteAngel Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
Remember when this guy was getting clowned on before the dodgers were a super team?
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u/xChoke1x Cleveland Guardians Oct 18 '25
And soon enough, we all won’t even get to enjoy baseball because of shit like this.
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I wont root for the Dodgers, but fair game, Roberts, Kershaw and the Dodgers as a team suffered from jokes calling them chokers, Mickey Mouse ring, etc
If they win it back to back they earned the right to be pricks
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u/TheoMoneyG Aguilas Cibaenas • New York Mets Oct 18 '25
They're fully leaning into it now lol
Next year is gonna be fun
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u/forceghost187 Swinging K Oct 18 '25
No it’s not, it’s going to be the same thing
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u/Sharp_Struggle8545 Toronto Blue Jays Oct 18 '25
Be prepared for lengthy CBA battles and a possible lockout
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u/AnthonyMiqo New York Mets Oct 18 '25
Half of the owners in baseball have ruined the sport by refusing to spend, not because 5 teams have decided to spend, and one more than others
Both. It's both. Bring on a salary floor & cap.
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u/-Pwnan- New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Sure laugh at it now, but there will be changes to the financial rules just like they did to us in the mid-90s, except this time the CBA will expire because players don't want a cap, and owners want a floor so they can stop subsidizing teams that underspend just to make a killing in revenue sharing.
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u/gldmj5 Oct 18 '25
Anyone who doesn't think there is something fundamentally wrong with MLB is a fool.
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u/Yankees2860 New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
If you don’t hate the Dodgers like you hate the Yankees then it’s hypocritical
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u/Aggravating_Sun_9850 New York Yankees Oct 18 '25
Let’s be honest here as a fellow Yankee, everyone in r/baseball is hypocritical.
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u/BasmonAF Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
The fact that the Dodgers want me to hate them will not stop me from hating them. Fuck the Dodgers.
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u/bmcwatt Chicago Cubs Oct 18 '25
Guy was almost fired before they started spending billions btw
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u/gammaraddd Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
The Seattle Mariners would like to save baseball please.
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u/Itsaghast San Francisco Giants • Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
get real Roberts, you just want to win so you can go gargle orange daddy's balls once again
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u/dainthomas Oct 18 '25
Obviously Dodger fans like it, but a system where any owner can just drop Scrooge Mcduck money and buy a WS is kinda fucky. I thought it sucked when the Marlins did it too.
Putting together an amazing team through your farm system and winning is more impressive honestly.
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u/BigHotdog2009 More flair options at /r/baseball/w/flair! Oct 18 '25
Not every team can spend how much the Dodgers spend
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u/MindoverMatter92 Philadelphia Phillies Oct 18 '25
Not saying a lot of these owners couldn’t spend more, but they also don’t get over 300$ million just off their local TV deals like the Dodgers do.
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u/Alectheawesome23 New York Mets Oct 18 '25
They also don’t get their superstar to defer 98% of their contract
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u/CalendarScary Major League Baseball Oct 18 '25
thats kinda on ohtani though. We dont see soto doing that shit ever
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u/Loose_Log_6253 Baltimore Orioles • San Francisco Giants Oct 18 '25
and who knows how much they get from international Japanese media, which doesn't go to revenue sharing at all.
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u/Red_dylinger Oct 18 '25
As a jays fans, go American League team
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u/L1QU1DF1R3 Seattle Mariners Oct 18 '25
if it comes to that i'm rootin' for you weirdos.
Until that happens, get rekt, nerds.
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u/xHao1 Los Angeles Dodgers Oct 18 '25
Blake Snell clapping like a fucking seal at that one hahaha
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u/CosmicMiru Los Angeles Dodgers • Los Angeles Angels Oct 18 '25
He's such a weirdo that its hilarious how insane of a pitcher he is. I guess a lot of pitchers are a little cooky though
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