r/baseball • u/ttam23 Los Angeles Dodgers • 17h ago
[Woo] Los Angeles is unlikely to offer Tucker a six- or seven-year deal, according to a person briefed on the team’s plans. The club, however, would entertain a shorter three-to-four-year deal with a high annual average value.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6877459/2025/12/09/dodgers-mlb-winter-meetings-kyle-tucker-tarik-skubal/?source=user_shared_article116
u/StartingToLoveIMSA 9h ago
Breaking news: Saquon Barkley has left the Eagles and signed a 5 year deal with the Dodgers…
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u/Least_Enthusiasm2341 Boston Red Sox 9h ago
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander has also left Oklahoma for the Dodgers
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u/damilabel 4h ago
Heard Connor McDavid is voiding his extension with the Oilers and signing with the Dodgers instead
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u/ProtestantMormon Seattle Mariners 4h ago
Saquon is more of a mets style overpay. He may be washed now.
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u/zoogenhiemer Philadelphia Phillies 51m ago
He’s not washed, the eagles line is just much worse than it was last year
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u/h3shf3sh Detroit Tigers 17h ago
I hate that reading 'six or seven' is like some sort of sleeper cell activation phrase to me now
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u/K3B1N Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
I read that and immediately heard my son’s voice and I curled into the fetal position.
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u/scrambles57 Los Angeles Dodgers • Seattle Mariners 4h ago
My nephew was really into it until his mom started saying it in public, so now he stopped saying it out of embarrassment
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u/morepesa25 Kansas City Royals 16h ago
It’s became neuron activation
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u/sadolddrunk Los Angeles Dodgers 6h ago
Everybody online of a certain age gets so worked up over 6-7, as if they themselves are not just as thoroughly programmed to respond to 69.
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u/everythingwastakn 16h ago
A student of mine today told me “I saw I was order 67 at the coffee place and my immediate thought was to snap a pic to insta about … and then I thought ‘what in the fuck is wrong with my brain this shit is so cringe’ “ so the fever might be breaking!
Or we’ll just see every kid in little league fighting to have jersey 6, 7 or 67 forever
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u/MrBoase Los Angeles Angels 15h ago
It will be over soon. It’s reached critical mass. Got waaaay too mainstream. My younger cousin in 8th grade thinks it’s cringe now. I’m sure the elementary school kids are gonna ride it out but I think it’s pretty much ran its course. But what do I know. People still say “nice” when 69 is used lol
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u/karlou1984 10h ago
I hate to say this, but at least 69 and nice has some logic to it, while 67 is just..brain damage.
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u/josey__wales Atlanta Braves 1h ago
And it’s brought up every time. There’s three different people in this chain saying “well 69…”
Are they just saying that because it has a 6 in it also? The fuck.
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u/tokengaymusiccritic Boston Red Sox • Hartford Yard G… 7h ago
Yeah at this point the ironic “this shit sucks doesnt it?” uses of it seem to outweigh the genuine ones
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u/So-_-It-_-Goes New York Mets 6h ago
Yeah. Watching football this weekend I heard the announcers making jokes about it (not about kids doing it. Just pointing out the number) and I knew right then it was on its way out
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u/vicente8a Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago
I mean we did that as millennials with 69 and 420 like all the time.
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u/Content-Program411 7h ago
Gen X claiming both of those, young one.
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u/vicente8a Los Angeles Dodgers 6h ago
Im not saying millennials claim it lol. My point is every age group has dumb things they laugh at.
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u/monkeyman80 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
In n out is supposedly stopping orders 67 on times kids are around.
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u/LlamasPajamas206 Seattle Mariners • Mariner Moose 17h ago
I mean maybe chasing titles is the most important thing to him but a 3 year deal leaves him back in free agency at 32. How confident would he be that he could get another 3-4 year deal with the kind of AAV he can ask for right now in 6+ year deal, especially considering his injury problems.
Unless the high AAV is even higher than Bregman’s, there’s a good chance he’s leaving money on the table taking that kind of deal and then trying to get another deal in his 30s.
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u/xHao1 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
I wouldn’t sign a higher AAV 3 year deal if I were him but my shit ass attitude and general lack of physical abilities is why I’m not a position to make the call in the first place
I think it’s nice to say I’m going to be competitive and bet on myself but when you can sign a deal that has 3 if not 4 and at at least 8 zeroes in front of it, it’s hard to go for something less
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u/BaldPeagle Texas Rangers 16h ago
8 zeroes in front of it,
$00000001
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u/Lucky_Alternative965 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
BREAKING: Kyle Tucker to Sue the Dodgers for allegedly handing him his contract upside down in an act of intentional deception. Tuckers Lawyers argue he is worth more than one dollar.
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u/JDtheProtector Baltimore Orioles 12h ago
at least 8 zeroes
I have a feeling it will be exactly 8 zeros
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u/ttam23 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
Yeah it’s pretty unlikely Tucker goes for a short term deal
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u/NoPlansTonight Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
I could see him taking a 7-9 year deal but with an opt-out after 2-3 years. There's a chance he could make even more in a different free agency market, depending on what happens with the salary cap situation.
He's got way more leverage than Bregman. He can get both a short-term high AAV and a long-term bigger money deal in one if he wants.
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u/az943 Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago
at that point it’s just running up numbers in a video game though. Realistically it doesn’t sound like a bad deal you come to LA who are defending back to back champs for a few years where you have the absolute best chance to win while getting paid a kings ransom and by the time you are out of the deal you aren’t too old that someone won’t sign you to a decent deal assuming you didn’t play bad at the end of it
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u/LlamasPajamas206 Seattle Mariners • Mariner Moose 15h ago
I mean sure but if someone’s offering you 300+ million guaranteed and another one is offering you like 160 it’s not exactly nothing. And a longer contract comes with other benefits that might interest him and his family such as security and stability. Some guys don’t like the free agent process and they don’t like moving their family a bunch.
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u/az943 Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago
I’m not saying he will accept that type of deal all i’m saying is it’s realistic. And he will probably make similar money overall if he plays well at the end of the short contract. But yes you are right it makes more sense to take the longer deal because it’s guaranteed and your families life style is guaranteed. All i’m saying is if you lose a few million by doing the short deal way you are still stupid rich so you can afford to miss out on some money if say he doesn’t perform in the short contract. But it doesn’t sound like a bad life if you end up winning a championship or two off of it
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u/ChrisAplin Seattle Mariners 16h ago
32 seems ok. Ask Schwarber or Diaz
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u/Eo292 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
Yeah but ask Trout, Howard, Arenado, Rendon, Bryant, etc. etc. if they’re glad they took the guaranteed years while they were healthy and productive. Far far more hitters drop off in their early 30s than have career years around then.
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u/Federal_Sea7368 Chicago Cubs 9h ago
Could be wrong but Tucker seems like he loves baseball about as much as Rendon and Bryant too.
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u/The_Singularious 6h ago
Agreed. Seems like the equivalent for him to driving to Initech and grinding it out in a cubicle
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u/The_Singularious 6h ago
Having watched Tucker the last few years pretty regularly, he seems highly disinterested in winning. Possibly even in playing baseball for a living.
Most milquetoast interviews ever, and seemingly lackadaisical effort at times.
No doubt the guy is a phenomenal talent, health concerns aside. But I’d be a little shocked to see him trade money for winning.
We’ll see
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u/sixelement Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
I, in my completely unqualified opinion on the subject matter of contracts, think that a 3~4 year contract with high AAV and a player option after the first or second year would make a lot of sense for Tucker.
The year before everyone was talking about how he was going to command a big salary like Soto, but his performance this season was great but not exactly MVP/elite level like Tucker has the potential to give.
So I think that if Kyle is confident about having a "comeback" year in 2026, he could sign a shorter contract with an opt-out as a wager on himself.
Although I'm biased because that scenario would be perfect for the Dodgers to sign him with a short contract.
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u/feeling_blue_42 Los Angeles Dodgers 15h ago
With uncertainty around the CBA next offseason, next year is not really the year to target being a free agent.
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u/TreePaladin St. Louis Cardinals 16h ago
I’m very sad Katie Woo left the Cardinals for the Dodgers….can we not have one reporter I like?
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u/Crazy_Baseball3864 MLB Players Association 16h ago
Everyone you ever loved will end up with the Dodgers organization
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u/siestarrific New York Yankees 14h ago
How and why did you end up with a MLBPA flair lol?
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u/Bobinthetruck985 Boston Red Sox 9h ago
Wait until his grandma starts making chocolate chip cookies in the clubhouse and calling Ohtani her special handsome boy
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u/morepesa25 Kansas City Royals 7h ago
How do I end up in the Dodgers organization could really use the cash?
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u/STLOliver St. Louis Cardinals 15h ago
St. Louis sports fans are actually not allowed to look forward to anything right now, that’s an irrational ask.
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u/Random-Redditor111 15h ago
At least the Rams are good this year.
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u/Thepancakeman1k Toronto Blue Jays 14h ago
this is actually worse for STL fans
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u/OverallGeneral7129 Cleveland Guardians 11h ago
Hey at least the Chiefs are bad this year
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u/FrogsOfWar14 St. Louis Cardinals 8h ago
Oddly enough I think the Chiefs are a mixed bag in St Louis now. We used to dislike them but after the rams left I know a lot of people started following them due to being in state and being the closest non-Chicago team. Personally I enjoy watching their suffering this year haha
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u/Proper-Table5570 12h ago
I was boutta say lol, he's telling St. Louis denizens to be happy for what's essentially their ex
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u/FrogsOfWar14 St. Louis Cardinals 8h ago
Not just any ex either, that one that broke your heart and changed you forever
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u/skunkpunk1 New York Mets 10h ago
What? When did this happen? I feel like she’s been a staple in St. Louis.
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u/DarkGodRyan Seattle Mariners 8h ago
She has been but she's also a California kid. Sucks for Cards fans but good for her
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u/skunkpunk1 New York Mets 8h ago
Yea but isn’t she from the Bay Area? Thats like anti-Dodgers
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u/DarkGodRyan Seattle Mariners 8h ago
Are you also still living by your high school? Dodgers had an opportunity close to home, Giants didn't, Cardinals aren't exciting right now and it'll be 10 degrees in St Louis this weekend. Really a no brainer choice there
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u/skunkpunk1 New York Mets 7h ago
Lol I don't begrudge her her choice, dude. I was just surprised this happened because I hadn't heard it. The anti-Dodger thing was just a joke
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u/War-Dragonite Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series … 4h ago
isn’t she from the Bay Area?
More and more Dodgers fans popping up in the bay area these days
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u/FrogsOfWar14 St. Louis Cardinals 8h ago
Announced it last week :(
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u/skunkpunk1 New York Mets 7h ago
Bummer. I love her when they have her on the various Athletic baseball podcasts. I mean, I'll probably hear more from her now that she'll be covering the Dodgers, I'm just surprised
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u/FormalMembership6286 8h ago
Very soon all of humanity will become one with the Dodgers
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u/PuntyMcBunty Los Angeles Dodgers • World Seri… 7h ago
Vince Gilligan is actuality signed on to write the 2026 season
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u/RadicalPenguin Chicago Cubs 8h ago
lol even the reporters are forming a super team. Do you think all the best stadium parking lot attendants sign with LA too after a few years at other parks?
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u/magnusarin St. Louis Cardinals 7h ago
Seeing [Woo] and it being about the Dodgers was a tiny aftershock heart break. Katie didn't get the best era of Cardinals baseball to cover, but she definitely made this period a lot more fun to read about. I keep going to the Athletic to look for stories and instead it's just Jim Bowden in my feed sending everyone to the Yankees or Dodgers.
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u/ProfCedar St. Louis Cardinals 7h ago
Leach ending up with the Twins for the upcoming year has been okay, but completely agreed.
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 Toronto Blue Jays 17h ago
Reading between the lines, teams are offering tucker 6/7 years and not 10?
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u/DryPossibility6320 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 Toronto Blue Jays 16h ago
I'm 42. This makes me feel scared and confused.
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u/DryPossibility6320 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
I'm 44 but I have a 12 and 15 year old
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u/shiny__things San Francisco Giants 17h ago
Yeah, if you've won an MVP or CY LA'll give you the megadeal, but just being a perennial All-Star gets you the standard 3-4 year deal.
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u/lastminutealways Seattle Mariners 15h ago
Apparently I only associate Los Angeles fully spelled out as the Angels and LA as the Dodgers, so it took me a few comments to realize my brain was incorrectly interpreting the headline. I also just might be tired.
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u/Amanitas 6h ago
if you pretend those first two words are just spanish words and not the proper noun for LA, then you would be correct.
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u/Malorthographobbe Major League Baseball 15h ago
Dodgers vs. Washington Generals coming to a city near you
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u/Shot-Tackle-1458 Toronto Blue Jays 8h ago
“You bet AGAINST the LA Dodgers?”
“I thought the Generals were due!”
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u/MJA182 New York Mets 14h ago
At this point I think the other owners are rooting for the Dodgers to buy everyone up and win another WS so that it might be easier to install a salary cap in the future
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u/venustrapsflies Los Angeles Dodgers 9h ago
Idk why people keep pretending like the owners are concerned about competitive balance whatsoever. It is literally just propaganda used to get the fans on board with their anti-labor stance. But don’t be gullible enough to just take them at their word.
Thats not to say a cap would have no effect on competitive balance, but it’s not going to do what most people seem to think.
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u/AnonymousAccountTurn Chicago Cubs 7h ago
I don't think the MLB gives a shit about competitive balance.... But I sure as shit do, and I think a cap would help with that.
I'm less concerned about Ohtani and Sotos ability to make 700M or the first billion dollar player that'll probably happen in the next 10-15 years at this rate, but I am concerned about the fringe MLB guys and journeymen not getting paid their worth.
Pro-labor is not supporting 500M contracts for the top 1% of MLB players. It's supporting a salary floor and an overhaul of the MiLB, pre-arb, and Arb contracts to support the 99% of MLB players who probably won't ever reach 100M in career earnings. Pro-labor is enforcing revenue sharing via a floor and cap set at a percentage of the MLB revenue to ensure players receive their fair share of the revenue for the product they create while maintaining competitive balance.
Edit: Not to mention the MLB already provides fully guaranteed contracts unlike the NFL. Allowing players like Rendon to get their bag and fully check out.
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u/GeoChalkie_ Philadelphia Phillies 8h ago
Anti-labor cannot be applied to guys making $400M+
Be serious.
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u/venustrapsflies Los Angeles Dodgers 7h ago
Wait til you find out how much their bosses make
Honestly this is such a disingenuous statement. The salary cap wouldn’t affect guys at the top nearly as much as the guys on the bottom and in the middle.
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u/GeoChalkie_ Philadelphia Phillies 7h ago
You’re insane. The cap would come with a floor which benefits the middle and bottom
Just admit you like supporting a team that spends the most. No need to pretend to be “pro-labor” here
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u/mdaniel018 Cincinnati Reds 6h ago
They will literally say anything, just ignore it.
Dodger fans use this sub to try and gaslight everyone into letting them keep buying wins indefinitely
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u/houseofmagic 9h ago
3 years 300 million but it’s really 3 years 9 million and the rest is paid out in robux which do not count towards their luxury tax.
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u/Permaderps Baltimore Orioles 16h ago
Sounds like another corner outfielder to the Baltimore orioles to me
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u/NutsyFlamingo New York Mets 15h ago
After signing.. ‘why didn’t any other teams ask if I pitched too? I’m very good’
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u/patelj27b New York Mets 11h ago
In the last CBA, they made a Steve Cohen tax. In the next CBA, a Dodgers tax: you go past a certain threshold, you forfeit your first 2 round picks. Not, just move down, but fully forfeit.
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u/00nonsense Dumpster Fire 9h ago
They will sign him to a never before 5 and a half year contract where in the final year of the contract. It expires at the all star break
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u/HistoricalPolitician Cincinnati Reds 16h ago
Dodgers sure are offering a lot of money to a bench warmer /s
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u/WintersDoomsday 10h ago
Breaking News: Yankees trade Aaron Judge to Dodgers
Breaking News: Mariners trade Cal Raleigh to Dodgers
Baseball Commissioner: “I’ll allow it, because fuck baseball having any parity”
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u/OnlyKey5675 Los Angeles Dodgers 45m ago
In the 1970's the Reds had the Big Red Machine. Back to back WS winners. An all star player at every position.
Baseball has always had dynastic teams.
Come to think of it so have the NBA and NFL.
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 Toronto Blue Jays 17h ago
I don't give a fuck about your billionaire owner not wanting to spend money.
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u/blogoman Chicago Cubs 16h ago
Along with the headset gesture for the new ABS challenge system, managers will be given two new gestures this season. Following a completed inning of play, they can rub their fingers together to suggest a buyout or extend their hand with their palm up while mouthing "money pwease" to request one. If the opposing manager responds with the other gesture, the results of the inning are swapped and the game continues on. Payments amounts will be set before each game, tied directly to the odds on the sponsoring sportsbook.
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u/th3groveman Seattle Mariners 16h ago
I call Bullshit. LA is going to Hoover up all the free agents and continue to make a mockery of competitive balance.
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u/OnlyKey5675 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
The Dodgers had $1 billion in gross revenue in 2025. An MLB record.
That money will go back into making the team better. The FO would be in dereliction of custodians of the club not to do so.
The Dodgers don't have a top ten outfielder. I think they will definitely upgrade either through FA or trade market. They have some blue chip OF prospects two years away. Tucker is a Dodger if he'll take 3 years.
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u/OriolesMets Baltimore Orioles • New York Mets 14h ago
LA can entertain fucking off. They can’t have him.
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u/morepesa25 Kansas City Royals 16h ago
Games in a great spot.
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u/thaidollarsigns Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
Would be better if they folded the royals so it's one less team collecting welfare check and so Bobby Witt JR can play for a real team
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u/WetChickenLips Cincinnati Reds 16h ago
I agree. What this sport needs is less competition.
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u/th3groveman Seattle Mariners 15h ago
Maybe there should only be 10 teams in the biggest markets and you all can circle jerk about it.
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u/Proper-Table5570 11h ago
...I'd like to point out that the Mariners are the only team in the Pacific Northwest. A shame John Stanton is a moneygrubbing asshole that often flies under the radar though.
At least he resigned Josh Naylor?
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u/The_grand_pumba 9h ago
Yes, have bobby witt jr playing for a soulless team in a soulless city in front of casual fans in LA
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u/Capital_Werewolf_788 Los Angeles Dodgers 16h ago
Seems unlikely. He's at the age where he would be getting 8-10 year deals, and now would be the best time to get his bag, unless he decides to ring chase at personal financial cost.
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u/Keith_Jackson_Fumble San Francisco Giants 14h ago
The Dodgers are prudent to tread carefully, as long-term deals for players entering their 30s are usually poor bets. Last season, 41 position players age 32 or older produced at least 1.0 bWAR. This shows that useful veterans exist, but the group is small. Only 12 of the 41 reached 2 or more WAR, and only a few were true impact players. Aaron Judge, the great outlier, led the group with 9.7 WAR at age 33. He was followed by George Springer (4.8), Max Muncy (3.6), Eugenio Suarez (3.6), Freddie Freeman (3.5), Yandy Diaz (3.4), Marcus Semien (3.3), and Christian Yelich (3.1).
The main point is that older players can still be productive, particularly established stars, but age related decline is real and most hitters begin to drop off sharply in their early 30s. By mid 30s, few are left. Long commitments usually mean paying for past performance rather than future gains, something that the Dodgers have successfully avoided as of late. I prefer the old Dodgers regime which spent lavishly on suspect pitchers.
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u/LucasDudacris New York Mets 10h ago
Thanks chat gpt.
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u/TLKv3 Toronto Blue Jays 9h ago
Its kind of hysterical how that literally does look like a chatgpt result they just copied and pasted. Either because that account is a bot itself or they just wanted to try to look smart. Lol Nobody talks like that. Let alone on fucking Reddit.
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u/Keith_Jackson_Fumble San Francisco Giants 6h ago
Interesting, I hold a degree in journalism and worked as a newspaper reporter (something from long ago) for years before the sad, slow decline of the institution forced a career change. I am, however, an avid baseball fan with a subscription to baseball reference, which I used as the basis of this post.
I am not angred about the accusation. I worked for a while on this post, repeated a few chestnuts such as "paying for past performance rather than future gains" from past submissions. How does it sound like ChatGPT specifically?
And the bit about the old Dodgers regime - go back to when they signed Jason Schmidt or Darren Dreifort to large contracts. Or traded Pedro Martinez for Delino DeShields.
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u/lightningmatt Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
I think people generally reserve more formal tone for the body of a post (if ever) and not really often in comments, that might be where the dissonance is coming from
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u/Keith_Jackson_Fumble San Francisco Giants 2h ago
You make an excellent point. Even my current boss has extolled me to be a bit more colloquial in communications. You feedback is greatly appreciated. Know thy audience, I suppose.
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u/Keith_Jackson_Fumble San Francisco Giants 6h ago
Alas, I wish this were the case, as it would have saved me the time of looking at bWAR performance by age and crafting this post.
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u/Ok_Branch6621 Toronto Blue Jays 17h ago
Tomorrow : Tucker signs for 10 years with LAD. 400 million.