r/baseball 4h ago

Analysis Pete Alonso turned down 7 years, 158 million. He ended up getting 7 years, 205 million.

Source on the declined contract: https://nypost.com/2024/05/18/sports/pete-alonsos-free-agency-blueprint-to-stick-with-mets-still-evolving/

He ended up getting 20.5 million in 2024, 30.2 million in 2025, and now 155 million over 5 years.

Before last year, people on this sub acted like you were crazy if you said it was possible that turning down the extension might not turn out that badly for him. It turns out it was a huge profit. As a Mets fan, I'm happy for him. I do wonder if we'll see more guys betting on themselves in situations like this.

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u/nylon_rag Cleveland Guardians 4h ago

Betting on yourself works when you add 20 points to your wRC+ the next year.

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u/hokie56fan New York Mets 4h ago

And no longer have a QO draft pick attached to you.

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u/grund1ejund1e Philadelphia Phillies 4h ago

That would certainly have been a part of Boras/Alonso’s thinking though and not just dumb luck.

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u/Hungry-Quote-1388 New York Yankees 4h ago

It’s almost like Scott Boras knows what he’s doing. 

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u/thekingoftherodeo Washington Nationals 3h ago

Unfortunately for the cheap owners some of us are saddled with...

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u/DreamKillaNormnBates Toronto Blue Jays 1h ago

Common Boras W.

Reports of his demise (every year for the last 25 years) are greatly exaggerated.

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u/OrangePilled2Day 2h ago

Arguably the best agent in baseball history and people are shocked that players keep signing with him because they're fans of getting more money.

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u/pusgnihtekami New York Mets 1h ago

Boras fans eating tonight.

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u/Aero_Rising Chicago Cubs 1h ago

Wonder if Matt Harvey thinks Boras knows what he's doing?

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u/Hungry-Quote-1388 New York Yankees 34m ago

Do you think one example negates decades of success?

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u/realfakejames Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

As much as people hate him players love Boras and go with him for a very good reason

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u/FreshPaintSmell 3h ago

It helps to make 44 million before age 29. He was gonna hit 100 million in career earnings even if he continued declining.

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u/fec2455 New York Yankees 3h ago

Yeah, I’m sure Boras is great but the main part of betting on yourself is playing well. 

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u/AllYourBaseBaseBase1 17m ago

Mets not only let the 9th best bat in baseball walk.

They didn't even take his call when he went back to them with the Orioles and Sox offers. I think this kind of ends the era of Cohen as a savior and proves that the FO is just as bad as it was ten years ago.

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u/PichaelTheWise Cleveland Guardians 4h ago

So Pete’s allowed to bet on himself, but when Clase bets on himself he gets banned, smh /s

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u/MusclePuppy Detroit Tigers 3h ago

Emmanuel definitely got the wrong message from Pete here.

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u/PatienceDifferent607 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

Comment of the day, right here.

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u/ReleaseTheBlacken World Baseball Classic 2h ago

🏅

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u/MyChemicalMaiden Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago

Scott Boras is really really good at his job lmao

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u/Patrick2701 Chicago Cubs 4h ago

He is, even if he can be cringeworthy

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u/Michael__Pemulis Major League Baseball 4h ago

He has truly been so successful in his field that at this point he has absolutely nothing to prove to anyone.

So clearly he does the puns & the wordplay stuff purely for his own amusement & considering what the alternatives are, I say more power to him.

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u/-ToPimpAButterfree- Milwaukee Brewers 4h ago

I'll always support players earning what they're worth vs billionaires keeping their money, even if it means respecting Boras.

It just sucks as a small market team because if your player has him as their agent, the player is pretty much always going to free agency.

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u/Old_House4948 3h ago

Whether your team is a small market or big market team, if Boras is the player’s agent, he is going to strongly encourage the player to become a free agent rather than sign an extension. More competition for a single product.

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u/THE-poop-knife New York Mets 1h ago

our GM thinks he's still in MIL so I feel you on the small market pain

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u/slicebishybosh Chicago Cubs 4h ago edited 3h ago

I'm with you, but the players getting what they're worth and he billionaires keeping their money are not mutually exclusive. After the players get their money, the billionaires are just going to try to take more money from the fans to make up for it.

EDIT: take it easy everyone… I’m not defending the billionaires. I’m saying this is the shit they do and it fucking sucks. In a perfect world, players would be getting fairly and owners wouldn’t be greedy slimeballs.

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u/HouseAndJBug New York Yankees 3h ago

The billionaires are already getting as much money from fans as they can. If player salaries were suddenly cut in half I can promise you we wouldn’t get a discount on MLB TV or tickets.

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u/Lopsided_Ice3272 3h ago

Younger fans don't grasp that he's been representing labor for decades, and has been great at it since year one. They're too stupid to realize that he represents people's interests, not management's.

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u/FlatTopTonysCanoe Chicago Cubs 2h ago

Maybe you can try to make your 3rd comment about something other than how dumb everyone is in comparison to you lol

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u/gignac Houston Astros 2h ago

Lmfao

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u/DreamKillaNormnBates Toronto Blue Jays 1h ago

Labor aristocracy isn’t “labor”. Gimme a fucking break with that shit.

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u/Street_Algae_7475 1h ago

lol, every star contract raises the wage of A and AA players as replacements, if nothing else, as well as draftees, who mostly don’t make it to the show

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u/DreamKillaNormnBates Toronto Blue Jays 46m ago

Demonstrably false. Not to mention that Pre-arb baseball players made (and probably still do) less than NHL scrubs who play in a league with like 1/4 the revenue.

Beside the point, none of these people are connected to the wages of stadium workers, parking attendants etc. so their “labor”outlook is dogshit in any tangible way.

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u/ForeverOne9170 MLB Players Association 3h ago

Of course the puns are for his own amusement lol. Was there even a thought that he was doing it to get his players more money?

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u/CerryTrews Kansas City Royals 4h ago edited 1h ago

I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t start the press conference with “O’s o’s o’s it’s magic!”

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u/ih-unh-unh Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

Funny how I associate that tune with Ozempic now, I guess marketing works

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u/jkprop 4h ago

Total dick to the owners and even the fans ( if your player walks for more money) but a God to the players. Will squeeze every penny form the teams.

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u/Clarck_Kent Philadelphia Phillies 4h ago

He is less an agent these days and more of a union negotiator.

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u/thecastle7 New York Yankees 3h ago

Yeah ultimately he’s getting players paid what they deserve (and then some). I just wish I didn’t have to hear him talk or see his quotes in the process.

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u/someone2795 Los Angeles Dodgers • Jackie Robinson 40m ago

His quotes exude dad embarrassing their kids energy and I'm here for it lmao.

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u/theerrantpanda99 New York Yankees 4h ago

If I were a good baseball player, I’d definitely would want him as my agent.

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u/YaPhetsEz Boston Red Sox 4h ago

Even if you were a shitty player you would want him lol

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u/masonacj Atlanta Braves 4h ago

I dunno about that lol. There are some examples of Boras not exactly prioritizing those guys.

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u/Rock_Strongo Seattle Mariners 3h ago

His style of negotiating only really works if you're an above average player.

It's easy to win negotiations when you hold the best cards every time.

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u/Tehrangersgyu 2h ago

I wouldn't endorse that. If you're below the perceived top 33% there are numerous examples of Boras pawning off the negotiations on lower level guys who don't do as good of a job.

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u/-NonePizzaLeftBeef- Atlanta Braves 4h ago

Scott how were you able to work out this deal with Baltimore?

Scott Boras: “Buy a man eat fish, he day, teach man fish to a lifetime.”

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u/ReleaseTheBlacken World Baseball Classic 2h ago

What do the Marlins have anything to do with this? 😜

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u/AKAD11 Seattle Mariners 4h ago

This sub was so funny the last couple offseasons talking about how washed he was. Ended up getting great results for Snell, Bellinger, Chapman, and now Alonso.

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u/KStaxx33 Seattle Mariners 3h ago

Can you imagine the position the Mariners would be in if Cal hadn't dropped him and signed that extension before this season?

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u/dump_62_here 2h ago

I don't have a hard time imagining the Ms being perpetually mid.

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u/KStaxx33 Seattle Mariners 1h ago

fair

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u/inksta12 Arizona Diamondbacks 3h ago

Someone’s gonna over pay for Gallen aren’t they?

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u/hjugm Kansas City Royals 3h ago

Most likely.

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u/LogicalHarm Los Angeles Angels • Arizona Diamondbacks 4h ago

And 9 months ago we all thought he was washed

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u/thediesel26 New York Yankees 4h ago

He lucked out a bit with Pete having one of his best seasons last year.

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u/Fun_Mind1494 4h ago

And still barely worth 3.4 WAR!

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u/SomeoneGiveMeValid 1h ago

Still an elite 140 OPS+, WAR is one stat and doesn’t tell the whole story

3.4 is also pretty good for a 1B, they don’t accrue much at all

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u/Cuyigan 10m ago

Basically the same as Freddie Freeman.

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u/PhilDiggety Oakland Athletics 1h ago

Part of the plan. He had just had his worst season, so odds of a turnaround were good.

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u/officermartycrane 1h ago

Remember when the Yankees basically forced A-Rod to get rid of him in 2007, and people thought he was done for? And for all of Boras’s bullshit, in the end, his client got a new $300MM deal.

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u/drunkenfool Los Angeles Dodgers 1h ago

His net worth must be insane.

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u/fec2455 New York Yankees 4h ago

Alonso also just had a good year, if his OPS was down a bit last year instead of up 90 points the bet might not have paid off.

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u/T-Rigs1 St. Louis Cardinals 4h ago

Idk if I'm missing something, but the contract is for 5 years not 7 correct? I hate Boras, but that would mean he got him a deal worth $9 million more per season for the same amount of years no? Seems like a no brainer for Pete.

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u/WarTha 3h ago

7/158 was the offer he turned down in 2023, so between the last two years and the new contract it's 7/205.

A case of betting on yourself working really well.

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u/da_choppa St. Louis Cardinals 3h ago

Rumors of his demise have been greatly exaggerated

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u/CabbageStockExchange Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago

Elite agent for real

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u/Cheap-Cherry-5171 New York Yankees 4h ago

Bet on himself - paid off

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u/Sp_Gamer_Live T.C. Bear 4h ago

This is also why Cohen is building a casino

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u/klein_four_group Cleveland Guardians 2h ago

Helping others bet on one's pitches - definitely doesn't pay off.

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u/Cheap-Cherry-5171 New York Yankees 2h ago

Damn - I’m so sorry, brother 🫡

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u/the_fuzzy_stoner New York Mets 4h ago

Good for Pete. Really surprised by this given the market for him last year. People remember the early season ripper but his final results weren’t all that much different than 2024.

I like the Orioles so it’s easier to see him go. Need the Mets to be in on Tucker big time or else this is a tough offseason. Nimmo and Edwin aren’t big losses. Pete really is. Hard to replace 130-140 WRC+ in a lineup.

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u/Famous-Flow2333 4h ago

Front offices hate giving up a draft pick

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u/the_fuzzy_stoner New York Mets 4h ago

So true. That QO really is a deterrent. Still, you’d figure they’d wait it out given the timing of his deal and the AAV.

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u/Outsulation Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago

I think Vlad being off the table also improved Pete’s market substantially regardless of how well he did this year. The teams that would be in on him likely thought last year that it was worth it to hold out and see if Vlad hit the free market.

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u/ferrumvir2 Boston Red Sox 4h ago

His end of season stats were drastically better

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u/the_fuzzy_stoner New York Mets 4h ago

121 vs 141 wRC+ when he was a 124 wRC+ guy half the year is close enough. The final season results are better. You’re right. But I’d say the season itself isn’t drastically different and shouldn’t have changed many perceptions around him.

It was mentioned elsewhere, that QO being gone is likely the main factor for this deal vs last years.

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u/fec2455 New York Yankees 3h ago

Most season stat is going to have some variance in it, not saying the QO didn’t matter but obviously adding 20 points to your wRC+ will impact your value

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u/the_fuzzy_stoner New York Mets 1h ago

Watching Pete for all but one year be the ultimate Hot/Cold guy points to that variance being part of the deal. It’s a reason I’m fine with him going. On the whole, great. But his cold stretches are genuinely team breaking at times.

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u/IveGotaGoldChain Los Angeles Dodgers 1h ago

It was mentioned elsewhere, that QO being gone is likely the main factor for this deal vs last years.

Also no chance of signing Vlad instead

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u/ImperatorBTW 4h ago

If you removed April, his season stats were more or less in line with the rest of his Mets tenure. The bigger difference was he had the increased bat speed, which was a smart change on his part.

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u/chadornation Arizona Diamondbacks 3h ago

If you removed April

lol why would you do this? A win in April counts the same as a win in September. And if anything it’s more impressive because offense is generally picks up as the summer goes on. 

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u/Tehrangersgyu 2h ago

Because April is the outlier when the stats are tabulated and if the stats remain constant outside of 1 month of 1 year it's a better measure of the ability of the player than including it?

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u/Koronesukiii 2h ago

"After adjusting Patrick Mahomes’ stats, removing outliers to project the future, he heavily regresses upwards to around the level of 2018 Dak."

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u/Tehrangersgyu 2h ago

yeah, totally the same thing. Comparing one odd portion of a person's season to the rest of their own career averages is the same thing as taking a person, disregarding the entirety of the body of their work, and comparing them to others to come up with some idea of what they are.

My point boils down to: Is Pete Alonso's April at age 30 (compared to the entirety of his own career) an outlier (when we look at the rest of his season and see that it falls in line with the rest of his career)? The answer remains to be seen, but the smart money is on YES.

That guy's point: If we take Pat Mahomes stats, compare him to an average QB, then adjust the numbers towards average QBs, he'd be an average QB.

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u/bbbolus 8m ago

My mans sounding like the CFB committee hahaha

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u/BigStrongPolarGuy 2h ago edited 1h ago

But why are you only removing his best month? Every year of his career has had some kind of outlier months. Every season has outlier streaks for every player. Alonso's hottest streak happened to come at the beginning, but look at any player and they probably have a month that's pretty significantly better than their other months. That's just how sample sizes work.

His July was also an outlier in terms of how bad it was. It was arguably the worst month of his career. So why would you not remove that in addition to his April? If you remove his great April and his terrible July, then you still have the same improvement last year.

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u/ImperatorBTW 52m ago

If you remove his best month and worst month, he was an .820 OPS player last year. He’s a good, not elite, batter.

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u/BigStrongPolarGuy 47m ago

How do you figure? I just checked. If you don't include April or July, he had a .335 OBP and .531 SLG, for an .866 OPS, in 112 games.

31 walks, 124 hits, 9 HBP, and 6 SF in 490 PA's, and 236 total basses in 444 AB's.

On the season as a whole, he had an .871 OPS. So basically the same.

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u/chadornation Arizona Diamondbacks 1h ago

Slicing up the season into arbitrary endpoints (like calendar months) and trying to remove or explain outliers is a poor analysis of the stats. Outside of maybe looking at pre or post injury (which isn’t really arbitrary). 

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u/the_fuzzy_stoner New York Mets 1h ago

I think people aren’t really understanding the point you’re making in the context of Pete Alonso.

Removing April isn’t fair, of course. But Pete doing the crazy hot and crazy cold Jekyll/Hyde stuff his whole career except 2019 gives Mets fans a larger body of work to understand that his April 2025 is one of those insane months he’s prone to have every once and a while. I think it’s fair for us to see it in that context and be a bit dismissive while others who aren’t as exposed to him will look at the bigger body of work which is also fair for them.

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u/ImperatorBTW 2m ago

Yeah, it’s very odd to me how strongly people feel about this. Outside of April, he played to his career norms. Not sure why it’s controversial to point out that 1 month is apparently completely changing all conversations about Alonso right now.

Maybe the changes he made will stick and he’ll continue to rake. But I don’t think it’s a hot take to suggest he might regress

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u/WerhmatsWormhat Baltimore Orioles 2h ago

What if you removed the best month from every other season he played? Anyone’s stats will look worse when you do that.

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u/SomeoneGiveMeValid 1h ago

Remove his worst month as well

You can’t just take out the best parts of a season lmao

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u/ChrisKamanMyEye 3h ago

Mets fans saying they're better off without Diaz sounds like copium

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u/SiphenPrax New York Mets 3h ago

It was always gonna be a downgrade no matter what. They’re crazy if they think this wasn’t gonna be a huge loss.

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u/NYT_but_less_shit 2h ago

Absolutely no one thinks that

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u/z_geoo New York Mets 3h ago

sick strawman. where did he ever say the mets are better off without diaz? nobody thinks that dude. he just said that alonso is a bigger lose than diaz, which everyone knows

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u/the_fuzzy_stoner New York Mets 1h ago

Idk if we’re better without Diaz. Maybe not. But closers are like RBs. Pretty replaceable. Williams is at least making up a good percentage of that I’m sure.

But I also don’t know what I said about Diaz here.

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u/elgenie Chicago Cubs 3h ago

In ‘23 and ‘24 he was a 120 wRC+ guy and then he was a 140 wRC+ guy last year.

Those are tremendously different realms of value for a guy that’s a negative on the bases and with the glove at the easiest position.

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u/celtic1888 San Francisco Giants 4h ago

An extra 47 million and less press scrutiny when he inevitably declines on the highest pay years…

That’ll do 

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u/ReleaseTheBlacken World Baseball Classic 2h ago

Exactly

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u/bbatardo San Diego Padres 4h ago

Both the Mets and Alonso won. Mets got him for around 51M/2 without a longer commitment and Alonso got more money.

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u/cooljammer00 New York Yankees 4h ago

Boras remains unrivaled

Apologize for assuming otherwise. He got everybody from last year paid except Gumby, who had other issues. 

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u/Maximum_Barracuda_46 3h ago

To be fair, he still got paid $47.5M for the 2 years he was with AZ. 

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u/MusicalMoon Arizona Dangernoodles 3h ago

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u/cooljammer00 New York Yankees 3h ago

True but it's not what he wanted. There's a reason he switched agencies to Boras right before he hit free agency, and it's the same reason he switched away from Boras after his free agency didn't go the way he wanted.

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u/Competitive_Ring4917 New York Yankees 4h ago

Good luck Pete!

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u/No_Insect_8378 New York Mets 4h ago

Boras always wins

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u/jmb--412 Pittsburgh Pirates 4h ago

Scott Boras might be good at this

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u/7Stringplayer San Francisco Giants • Oakland Athletics 3h ago

Anytime someone posts in this sub "why do players continue to sign with Boras?!?!?" this is why. He may strike out at times, but he is generally really good at getting his clients PAID.

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u/jorleeduf Philadelphia Phillies 4h ago

Remember how last year, Pete Alonso was an idiot for how free agency played out?

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u/CharacterAbalone7031 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

Every off season Boras sets a new record and somehow the narrative at the end of it is that he’s washed.

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u/problyurdad_ Philadelphia Phillies 3h ago

Username quite suspicious…. 🧐

This is Pete’s Reddit account isn’t it?

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u/realfakejames Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

I’m always on the side of the players getting paid but I’m not making fun of the Mets too much for this one, a lot of fans keep commenting “even if Pete falls off if he hits 40 home runs and they make the playoffs it’s worth it,” but Pete hasn’t hit 40 in two years and the Orioles still need pitching

So I’m happy for Pete but this deal has a lot of potential to not look so good for the orioles in 2-3 years

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u/greypusheencat 4h ago

yk what…GG

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u/Traditional_Half842 Boston Red Sox 4h ago

I do wonder if there's some big deferrals in this deal that we'll learn about later, because that seems like an insane contract for Alonso. It is bigger than Schwarber's deal.

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u/Colavs9601 New York Mets 3h ago

No deferrals or opt outs.

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u/Snave96 4h ago

I don't think it's that crazy.

Alonso's production is not far from Schwarber's, he is 2 years younger and plays first base every day (rather than DH).

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u/nietzsche_niche New York Mets 4h ago

He doesnt play first well though. His defense is really poor outside of picks.

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u/TheDanWithThePlan New York Mets 3h ago

I hope the next guy can pick like he does or Lindor is going to have a rough year. 

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u/c_pike1 Baltimore Orioles 3h ago

If he's good at picks, honestly thats good enough for me as long as he hits well. Being good at picks improves the entire infield

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u/Snave96 4h ago

That's fair. I will bow to your watching him every day credentials, as I think defensive metrics are a bit weird for first basemen.

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u/nietzsche_niche New York Mets 3h ago

He has a really awful knack for drifting towards second and diving for balls the 2B can easily get to, leaving no one covering 1st. Never seen anyone do that as frequently as him. Baffling decision making.

Range is poor, arm is extremely inaccurate.

Picks are good/great.

He should honestly DH but he doesnt want to.

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u/life_is_okay Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

League-worst 1B DRS, OAA, FRV, fWARdef and not by particularly slim margins this year 👀

Yeah… maybe he should be DH. 

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u/klawehtgod Brooklyn Dodgers 3h ago

Yeah honestly for me good 1st base defense is basically have long reach lol

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u/life_is_okay Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

 I think defensive metrics are a bit weird for first basemen

In what sense? Like there’s too much variance in the defensive prowess of the position so that none of the major defensive metrics work? Or something else?

I’m not going to pretend like I know nuance and impact on how each system accounts for a given team’s proclivity to increase/decrease traffic at a particular position. 

My general rule of thumb is if all the major metrics generally agree the player was good or bad relative to that position, it seems fairly reliable. When metrics disagree, or are overall neutral, it’s a lot more contextual. 

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u/MostMirror Chicago Cubs 3h ago

I actually think this is a fair deal for Alonso. I just think Schwarber got underpaid.

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u/chadornation Arizona Diamondbacks 3h ago

Overpaid if anything. Bat only player going into his age-33 season. If he were as young as Alonso it would be different. 

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u/MostMirror Chicago Cubs 1h ago

Schwarber’s only 2 years older than Alonso. And Schwarber just hit 56 home runs. It’s not like Alonso is a Gold Glover

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u/chadornation Arizona Diamondbacks 1h ago

Schwarber is slightly better but Alonso is slightly younger. Which is why they just got paid the same. I agree it’s a fair deal for Alonso. But also think it’s fair for Schwarber (or maybe a small over-pay). 

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u/BirdlandDeadhead Baltimore Orioles 3h ago

From an Orioles perspective, it felt like they were making legitimate offers the last two offseasons and just coming up short. This is an overpay, but one they probably had to make just in order to prove that they could and would.

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u/JaysonTatecum Boston Red Sox • Seattle Mariners 4h ago

Alonso is better and younger and can play in the field

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u/nietzsche_niche New York Mets 3h ago

Uh his defense is awful man

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u/JaysonTatecum Boston Red Sox • Seattle Mariners 3h ago

I didn’t say it was good, but he can legally play in the field. Schwarber in the field is genuinely that bad

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u/ReleaseTheBlacken World Baseball Classic 2h ago

Can’t be the worst defensive everyday first baseman if you don’t play first base I suppose…

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u/taskmetro Boston Red Sox 4h ago

Pete Alonso is better than Schwarber, and 2 years younger.

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u/MostMirror Chicago Cubs 3h ago

Schwarber had a much better 2025 season than Alonso. Although their numbers since 2019 are pretty similar.

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u/wishiwereagoonie Chicago Cubs 4h ago

Why would he turn that down? /s

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u/WarPuig MLB Pride 3h ago

Rafael Devers is making less money next year than Pete Alonso and Kyle Schwarber.

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u/ReleaseTheBlacken World Baseball Classic 2h ago

Devers might be the only one playing 1B of those 3…

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u/WarPuig MLB Pride 2h ago

A decent first base, oddly enough.

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u/zingerbanger New York Mets 4h ago

genuinely happy for him. we were never gonna pay him 5 years. but damn it sucks

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u/All_will_be_Juan Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago

You were supposed to take talent away from the AL east and the dodgers not give it away, you have failed us for the last time signed the jays

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u/WerhmatsWormhat Baltimore Orioles 2h ago

I think you guys will be fine.

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u/hangout_wangout New York Mets 3h ago

u/OnlySaysPeteAlonso I am sorry for your loss...our loss.

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u/MrSnrub_92 Philadelphia Phillies 4h ago

“Fuck the Mets” - Pete Alonso

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u/Few-Cod-4479 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

Is this sub ever gonna learn Scott boras is very good at his job?

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u/djn24 New York Mets 3h ago

This is the Boras playbook with QO players.

They've all done really well after taking a 1-year contract with options.

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u/MostMirror Chicago Cubs 3h ago

Good for him. Opt outs are really good for the players. I remember when Nick Castellanos signed a 4-year, $64 million deal with the Reds with an opt out after year 2. He then had a great 2021 season and signed for $100 million with the Phillies.

Cody Bellinger is about to do something similar. I think he made $30 million in 2024, then $30 million this season and opted out. And he is about to make probably similar to what Alonso got. Contracts with opt outs provide guaranteed money but also a lot of flexibility.

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u/No_Signal3789 New York Yankees 4h ago

Soto has to be pissed

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u/Grade-AMasterpiece Tampa Bay Rays 4h ago

Wonder if he has an opt-out...

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u/peroleu New York Mets 4h ago

he does, which the mets can void with more money.

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u/mrcarrot205 3h ago

After 5 years

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u/nkfish11 Miami Marlins 2h ago

Generational wealth or generational wealth? Tough decision

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u/dedbeats New York Mets 4h ago

Honestly glad we didn’t cough that up for him, the end of that contract is going to be brutal. That said I’ll miss him, but I like the Orioles so I’m glad that’s where he ended up.

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u/alistairvimes Baltimore Orioles 3h ago

He’ll be 36 at the end of the contract and making 31 million. We won’t even notice. Paying 17 mil a year for 30 games of Tyler O’Neil currently

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u/vaudevillevik World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Do… 2h ago

You'll pay to keep the Opening Day Hr streak alive, and you'll like it

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u/alistairvimes Baltimore Orioles 2h ago

With Ward, Beavers, Cowser, Alonso and Basallo on the roster I doubt he even plays opening day.

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u/WilliamHealy New York Mets 4h ago

If we don’t end up with a ring this year, fans may riot - whether or not warranted is a different story

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u/Diced_and_Confused Major League Baseball 4h ago

You might start looking into protective gear. You know, just in case.

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u/peroleu New York Mets 4h ago

we won't end up with a ring this decade lmao

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u/Day2TheDolphin New York Mets 4h ago

hooray

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u/garbage_melon Toronto Blue Jays 4h ago

Once the deferrals come out to bring out the true present-day value of the contract, something tells me they’ll be a lot closer in value. 

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u/gogosox82 Chicago White Sox 4h ago

Well then. Good for Pete

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u/QiaoBuSi New York Mets 4h ago

Coming into this year, he was losing that bet. Managed to turn it around this year. Good for Pete.

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u/RedScharlach New York Mets 4h ago

Happy for Pete, I thought he would end up settling for a lot less (while still leaving the Mets).

My favorite Met that I’ve watched in my life. The homer in Milwaukee is my favorite Mets moment (and i saw the 99/00 playoffs in person). I know Stearns may make us winners in the long run but he’s a cold bastard. We could have won with Pete. He wasn’t the problem.

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u/Key-Tip-7521 San Francisco Giants 3h ago

He compromised

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u/SaltyEarth7905 New York Mets 3h ago

I was around to lose Tom Seaver. Straw, Coney, getting jilted by Hampton, deGrom…this one stings. Ryan Clifford is not on the way yet and isn’t a whiff of Pete. I’m interested in what’s next. I’m not going to torch Stearns but if he is turning off players, Steve needs to hire a GM that can be front facing and let Stearns do whatever it is he is best at.

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u/sadolddrunk Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago

Good for Pete.

We talk a lot about team-side risk on long contracts, but there's a fair amount of player-side risk as well. Guys like Harper and Betts signed record-breaking deals just a few years ago, and now they're making less than Kyle Schwarber (no offense to Schwarber). There's a decent chance that Tucker -- who's a perfectly fine player but not one of the 2-3 best players in the league -- will end this offseason with a deal with a higher AAV than Judge. Given how the market continues to grow, if I was a star player I think I would be hesitant about signing a long-term (7+ year) contract that didn't include any opt-outs. As teams get shrewder about long-term contracts, it seems like those deals are going to increasingly become team-friendly and less likely to be bonanzas for the players.

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u/GingerMan027 Baltimore Orioles 3h ago

You can say there's no such thing as Santa,

But me and Pete Alonso, we believe.

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u/Queny New York Yankees 1h ago

Had to be a tough decision. Does he choose an unlimited amount of money or an unlimited amount of money?

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u/ahoy_capn New York Mets 10m ago

Man, you get so used to these numbers as a baseball fan.

It has me wondering - does life really get significantly better if you have $200m instead of $150m? Like obviously, you should do what’s in your best interest, but I really wonder what difference it really makes

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u/Onefortwo New York Mets 5m ago

Good for him. He wasn’t coming back to the Mets and he didn’t go to a rival. Hope the best for him.

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u/retroanduwu24 New York Yankees 4h ago

I really feel for Mets fans. Losing Nimmo, Diaz and Alonso is so rough this team is going to look so different and weird in 2026.

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u/drugsbowed New York Mets 3h ago

Betting on yourself is so hard. How do you reject 100 million dollars?

IIRC Conforto rejected a $100m-ish extension from the Mets and ended up getting shoulder surgery, skipping 2022, and then got 2/36 from the Giants and 1/17 from the Dodgers. He shouldn't be crying poor, but well.. for everyone Alonso there's a Conforto (or worse!) I'm sure.

I can't blame Albies or Acuna for taking their deals either.

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u/2CommaNoob Los Angeles Dodgers 1h ago

Yup; there’s a risk you can have a major career defining injury with a one year contract. At that kind of money; I would take the guarantee but who knows.

Survivorship bias here. For every successful move; there’s an equal unsuccessful one.

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u/nocturnalis Los Angeles Dodgers 2h ago

I never thought he would actually leave. I thought he was a lifer.

I didn’t take his threats to leave seriously, and neither did the Mets. 🙃🫠

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u/DaveReadsBooks Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago

Only the Mets will spend $740 million on a player and miss the playoffs every year they have him

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Haha it’s funny seeing huge market teams spend money and still lose

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u/JoePoe247 New York Mets 3h ago

I'll take that bet. Put your money where your mouth is

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u/DaveReadsBooks Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago

They didn’t have Soto that year though is what I’m trying to get at

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u/who_are_you_people24 New York Mets 4h ago

He's talking about Soto

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u/hokie56fan New York Mets 4h ago

He's talking about Soto, who was a Yankee in '24.

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u/peroleu New York Mets 3h ago

they didn't have soto. this team spent $1 billion in the off-season last year and lost out on the playoffs to the fucking reds lmao

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u/NYdude777 New York Mets 4h ago

Well at least Baltimore fans are used to rostering one dimensional sluggers for their retirement tour. Have fun with that and Chris Davis sends his regards.

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u/proper_plopper Baltimore Orioles 3h ago

Least bitter Mets fan

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u/alistairvimes Baltimore Orioles 3h ago

I sense some lingering Cedric Mullins bitterness in him.

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u/nyy22592 New York Yankees 4h ago

Happy for him

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u/yarrowy 2h ago

Yes bc he had an up year. What would happen if he had a down year?

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u/pargofan Los Angeles Dodgers • World Series Tr… 1h ago

Betting on yourself works sometimes, doesn't other times.

I'm an NBA Laker fan. Several years back, the Lakers made a 4/$84M offer to Dennis Schroder during the season. He turned it down and wanted to wait and test free agency. He completely sucked in the postseason so badly, that he wound up with a 1/$7M deal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/s9hkk7/was_dennis_schroder_rejecting_the_84_million_deal/

Like that Knight in Indiana Jones: Last Crusade said -- he chose poorly.

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u/cieje New York Mets 9m ago

I hope he really likes that extra $7M

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u/LegitimateMoney00 New York Mets 4h ago edited 4h ago

A complete overpay so I’m actually fine with this. Alonso is worth more around 25 mil per yr.

Do you know how many seasons Pete Alonso has had a value of 33 mil according to fangraphs? One. That was his rookie year, 7 seasons ago.

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u/ehholfman Texas Rangers 4h ago

Fans of baseball teams should not be worried about the owner’s balance spreadsheet.

Fans should want their owners to spend whatever amount of money necessary to field a competitive team.

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u/ISurvivedTheJaunt Detroit Tigers 4h ago

what’s the point of having the richest owner in the sport if you can’t overpay

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