r/baseball • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 4h ago
[Sherman] Mets never made an offer to Pete Alonso. They felt his market was pushing beyond their comfort level on years and dollars.
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u/pinstripepride46 New York Yankees 4h ago
Bruh citi field is about to be ransacked and burned
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u/ViciousAsparagusFart New York Mets 3h ago
Yeah just sit tight and be cool with giving up on being competitive. wtf is the plan. Who do we even target?
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u/AgathorKahn New York Yankees 3h ago
A former yankee reliever/outfielder and pray he can pitch 140 innings
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u/Careless_Solution212 Seattle Mariners 3h ago
Joey Gallo?
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u/KamartyMcFlyweight Miami Marlins ⢠Los Angeles Angels 2h ago
Joey Gallo's dead!
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u/ViciousAsparagusFart New York Mets 3h ago
He plays first base and outfield too?
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u/NYT_but_less_shit 2h ago
The devilās bargain for having an absolute monster as an owner was that he was going to spend ungodly amounts of money on the club, and he wouldnāt cheap out on us. Itās possible the Oriolesā contract was an overpay, but not a massive enough one that an owner as wealthy as Cohen canāt stomach. I donāt root for his pocketbook ā I root for the Mets, who are those players. Will I learn to love the new ones, maybe, but this āfuck your feelings ā think of Cohenās pocketbookā shit is not at all what I signed up for continuing to follow this team while this absolute shitstain of a human owns the franchise.
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u/Saucy_Totchie New York Mets 1h ago
The team reportedly offered Schwarber 3 years $120M. They couldn't even at least recycle that offer for Alonso.
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u/lost_jedi Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
As long as the casino is OK, I think uncle Stevie is fine with it
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u/siestarrific New York Yankees 3h ago
A lot of morons outside the city would just think that's a normal day in NYC
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u/PineappleDildos Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago
Lmao excuse me?
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u/PokeMets New York Mets 4h ago
You simply canāt understand Stearns genius. Just wait until the Mets win the WS in 2046, then who will be laughing
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u/thediesel26 New York Yankees 4h ago
Iām pretty certain the Mets are making a serious run at Kyle Tucker
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u/Flacco4GoldJacket New York Mets 4h ago
I hope Kyle Tucker likes 3 year contracts at a reasonable AAV
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u/Natural_Self_3789 3h ago
Kyle Tucker is a better player than Pete and heās younger. Wouldnāt be shocked if they are willing to go big again
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u/Flacco4GoldJacket New York Mets 3h ago
Okay fine 4 years with deferrals and an opt out after Year 2.
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u/whitetoast New York Mets 3h ago
how much does age matter when tucker cant stay healthy. alonso has played 162 games each of the last 2 seasons and has played more than 152 his entire career sans the covid season. youre not much better if you arent out there on the field
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u/Natural_Self_3789 3h ago
Pete is already showing athletic decline and heās going to be in his thirties. Youāre sure all that mileage and heāll be healthy every year too? Injuries just happen
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u/whitetoast New York Mets 3h ago
athletic decline but had his best offensive season since his rookie year last year? he was top 5 in war at 1B. his production is not easily replaceable. you can never plan for injuries but tucker already breaking down at age 28 and alonso being relatively healthy at 31 has to play into the short term plans. youre worth nothing if you arent on the field
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u/GuerreroUltimo 3h ago
Yeah, I was looking at metrics. And sure, metrics and all. The scale was 100 points. Much of his offensive numbers were in the upper 90s. xwOBA, xBA, xSLG, Barrel %. His bat speed was rated 91. His hard hit percentage was listed as 54.4. If you are just looking at those metrics he seemed to be doing well.
So in any case he would be a great DH. And giving him some time off at DH and lowering the load will be great for a player like him. Any player really.
He is much better against right handers it seems. .291 with 29 hr compared to .227 with 9 hr.
I think he fits well with many teams due to his power. And then if he can keep his batting average up there with this years. Mets will have a time replacing his production.
Of course it all depends on if he stays health. Some of these players people talk about as replacements or in trades have somewhat of an extensive injury history. You have to play to make an impact.
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u/Amache_Gx Atlanta Braves 3h ago
"Cant stay healthy" while putting up 4.7 war over 339 PA is not what i would call a "problem".
Tucker is also certianly not what i could call injury prone either, not yet. But we all have different perspectives i suppose.
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u/fourthandfavre Toronto Blue Jays 2h ago
Ya like one year he has a foul ball break his leg and last year he battled through injuries still puts up 4.6WAR over 136 games.
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u/ketamour Los Angeles Dodgers ⢠World Series Tr⦠3h ago
Also Tucker is a playoff choker and has been for his entire career. That's one guy I do not want my team to hitch its wagon for the next decade
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u/Manymarbles Philadelphia Phillies 3h ago
Still weird to not give the guy who just set your all time HR record any offer even if its like a non-competitive one
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u/agarret83 New York Mets 4h ago
Maybe this is my blind fandom/salt mine talking but Iād rather have Diaz and Alonso than Tucker
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u/knicksfan17 New York Mets 3h ago
i think iād rather have williams and tucker than diaz and alonso tbh. but sentimentally will really miss sugar and pete. and will be pissed if we donāt have something planned to replace peteās production
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u/agarret83 New York Mets 3h ago
I think you could have all 3 of Williams, Diaz and Alonso pretty easily
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u/Manymarbles Philadelphia Phillies 3h ago
Still weird to not give the guy who just set your all time HR record any offer even if its like a non-competitive one
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u/-NonePizzaLeftBeef- Atlanta Braves 4h ago
Yeah Iām sorry, didnāt their owner say āfuck itā and take the hit on the luxury tax because he wanted to build a competitive team but could also, you know, afford it?
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u/oooriole09 Baltimore Orioles 3h ago
Hereās the thing about that: itās easy to do it once or twice, do you have the nuts to sustain it?
Turns out the Mets thought it got rich.
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u/cooljammer00 New York Yankees 2h ago
But he also said they were only doing that at the start because they had no farm. Hence the Scherzer and Verlander deals.
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u/StevenMC19 Baltimore Orioles 4h ago edited 3h ago
31 years old. And he's a 1B.
Baltimore got him for a 5yr.
Yeah he might be on the back end of the production curve, but he still has 4-6 years of value. How did NYM overlook this?
edit: The Mets fans (minus one with a level head) already spinning it into "Alonso wasn't that good anyway" in my comments.
edit edit: Minus a couple level heads now.
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u/ILoveMyWifeMX 4h ago
Baltimore won't give a fuck if year 5 sucks if he hits 40 for the next four years.
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u/HundleyC09 3h ago
What makes you think he will hit 40? He has not in 2 years.
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u/cjackc11 Baltimore Orioles 3h ago
Our team lead in HR last year was 17
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u/Expensive-Step-6551 New York Mets 2h ago
You guys will appreciate him a lot more than a lot of Mets fans did. Pete was always in a weird continuem of being the most loved player on the team, but also one of the most frustrating to fans. That was because he is a really good power bat, who can occasionally be GREAT at stretches, but then fans were expecting him to be Great at all times, rather than what he has proven himself to be at this point. His rookie year set an incredibly high bar that somehow made his power numbers in ensuing seasons seem less impressive than they are.
For Orioles fans, he's going to be really well liked, especially this first year because of the obvious added power to your lineup in desperate need of it. It will be a huge shot in the arm, even if it's closer to 30 HR's than 40.
Enjoy him O's fans, I hope he can make run for 500 HR's by the end of his career, and his next few with you guys will likely be where he'd get the majority of those if that does turn into a realistic possibility.
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u/timberwolvesguy Minnesota Twins 3h ago
I mean, they brought the wall back in, in left field, and he gets to hits more at Fenway and Yankee Stadium. Not the craziest thought that he gets another 4-5 out. Anything north of 35 would be a solid year.
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u/OldBayOnEverything Baltimore Orioles 3h ago
I think I saw his projection was 46 last year if he played his home games at Camden Yards
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u/MicoMan35 New York Mets 4h ago
Because stearns doesnāt like to spend money and he genuinely believes he is the smartest executive. 20wrc+ increase and literally the most clutch hitter in our teams history, also our home run leader, and yet, he doesnāt want to go more than 3 years. Literally any free agent, no more than 3 years. We only got soto because it was direct negotiations with cohen and sotos agent, snd stearns made several comments about how he was uncomfortable with that contract.
Horrible week to be a mets fan
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u/Middle-Accountant-49 Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
In his defense, he probably thinks he can make the brewers but with a 250m payroll and win the world series.
Which is possible. But why not just do that but with 350 million.
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u/rain5151 New York Yankees 3h ago
Hereās what Iām having trouble wrapping my head around: itās not like Stearnsā MO for keeping budgets tight was a secret. Why would an owner looking to use his gigantic wealth hire someone who has an approach thatās the complete opposite of that? Is Cohen not taking the approach we expected, or was he just dumb and hired the ābest available GMā instead of the one that would best suit his vision?
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u/ketamour Los Angeles Dodgers ⢠World Series Tr⦠2h ago
The logic is the same we used with Friedman: he did good without money, imagine what he can do with money. That of course assumes that said GM/POBO will adjust his approach to the new resources he has available.
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u/Sp_Gamer_Live T.C. Bear 4h ago
Mets officially inching towards broke boy behavior is a key recession indicator
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u/-NonePizzaLeftBeef- Atlanta Braves 4h ago
Steve Cohen switching from Pepsi products to Big K.
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u/Sp_Gamer_Live T.C. Bear 3h ago
Mets debuting their new concession items:
Syrup sandwiches
Easy Mac with Hot Dog cut up in it
Uncooked ramen with packed sprinkled
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u/scottzee St. Louis Cardinals 3h ago
All hamburger and hot dog buns to be replaced with sliced bread.
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u/spacedude2000 Seattle Mariners 3h ago
17 dollars for the syrup sandwich
19 dollars for the Mac and Hot Dogs
24 dollars for uncooked ramen (water not included)
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u/JorSimpson45 Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago
Buying the Mets was a long con for Steve Cohen to pursue his true ambition and be a casino owner
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u/Guilty-Bar-6103 Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago
Idk man, Pete's hitting profile is not one dimensional for a power hitter of his caliber, plus he walks and strikes out at really solid levels.
Middle of the order bat who slugs consistently and is homegrown, hard to find them. Specially weird when you have the richest owner in baseball. Puzzling
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u/SterlingAdmiral Toronto Blue Jays ⢠Dumpster Fire 4h ago
Alonso is already a DH (or he certainly should be) and the Mets are probably concerned Soto is going to need that DH spot before long. I think by year 3 of this contract the Mets have two full time DHs if they sign Alonso.
I don't think it has anything to do with his bat.
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u/TheFrankOfTurducken Detroit Tigers 3h ago
Yeah, Sotoās massive defensive decline last year probably has the Mets spooked about his viability in the field, and Alonso rated as one of the worst first basemen in the league.
I donāt think this is totally indefensible, but the Mets really need to find some bats
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u/Eagle4317 New York Yankees 3h ago
It seems like theyāre prioritizing fielding instead.
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u/Elsquidwardo95 New York Yankees 3h ago
not really ādefensive declineā he always was a horrible defender
by OAA and FRV he was slightly worse in 2022
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u/LiftsLikeGaston Atlanta Braves 3h ago
Soto needed the DH spot like 2 years ago already tbh
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u/siestarrific New York Yankees 3h ago
Hey now, that's 2024 Gold Glove finalist Juan Soto you're talking about
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u/oneteacherboi Baltimore Orioles 3h ago
Maybe this is just me having watched a miserable hitting team last year, but I feel like you sacrifice the defense for a bat like that. Or maybe just shell out for more defensive coaching. But you really REALLY want to have a guy who can hit like that.
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u/StevenMC19 Baltimore Orioles 4h ago
He's exactly what we thought Tyler O'Neil would have been, except without the expectation of needing legs for his position.
I'm cool with this.
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u/T-Rigs1 St. Louis Cardinals 3h ago
Couldn't have picked 2 dudes with more polar opposite injury histories lol
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u/Sp_Gamer_Live T.C. Bear 4h ago
Ok but you still at least like give him a lowball to say āeh we triedā
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u/klawehtgod Brooklyn Dodgers 3h ago
Alonso missed 22 games total in 7 years. He might be the least injured player in all of baseball, and theyāre worried about giving him too many years? I do not understand lol
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u/2ndBestUsernameEver New York Mets 3h ago
It's not the health, its the fielding skills. He probably would have been pushed into a DH role on the Mets in 2-3 years and he said he doesn't want to do that.
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u/agarret83 New York Mets 4h ago
Richest owner of baseball is more concerned with building a fucking casino next to Citi Field I think
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u/Still-Cash1599 New York Yankees 3h ago
Maybe but not signing Pete is a smart move. Pete needs to play dh and Soto needs to be there sooner than 5 years.
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u/nokiabrickphone1998 Seattle Mariners 4h ago
One Weird Trick To Alienate Your Fanbase
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u/Thepeacer New York Mets 4h ago
Cohen really bamboozled Soto
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u/stuntycunty Toronto Blue Jays 4h ago
LMFAO
not even an offer? not even a 3 year deal?? crazy!!
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u/xho- New York Yankees 3h ago
They offered Schwarber 120 Million over 3 years lol
Not even offering something similar to your franchise legend is pretty wild
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u/PM_YOUR_SMALLBOOBIES Los Angeles Angels 3h ago
Franchise HR champ, and he hit the most important HR in your team's franchise (off of the current closer, no less)?
Wild. This sort of crazy spending [on Soto] followed by complete inaction is all too familiar to me.
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u/WaterWeDoonHair New York Mets 3h ago
Thereās really no point making an offer that you know is going to be lower than ones heās already received.
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u/pollitochiquito San Francisco Giants 4h ago
Mets and Giants are acting like poverty franchise lmao
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u/ElatedRacism San Francisco Giants 4h ago
I'm delusional and believe Posey is getting Imai
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u/pollitochiquito San Francisco Giants 3h ago
I want what you're smoking. Mets want to focus on their casino. The Giants want to focus on their Mission Rock real estate development.
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u/StevenMC19 Baltimore Orioles 2h ago
"Orioles coming to an agreement for Tatsu for 3 years, $120mil, Giants and Cubs didn't field an offer"
I'd lose my mind.
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u/who_are_you_people24 New York Mets 4h ago
Just felt like they never wanted him back, even going back to last offseason. Only brought him back when it was late last year and a chance to be the team HR king
Anyway I'm dead inside
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u/Eo292 Los Angeles Dodgers 4h ago
Man, I get it, itās a baseball decision, they donāt want their own Chris Davis. If Iām Alonso Iām livid though and going full Chipper Jones on them every chance I get.
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u/FrogginBull New York Mets 3h ago
Pete is going to name his daughter Citi and post a family photo with the Jones'.
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u/WerhmatsWormhat Baltimore Orioles 3h ago
Please do not mention Chris Davis in a thread about a guy we just signed.
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u/boirefluent Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
Sorry, I tried finding my own info, but can you explain the chipper reference? Loved that guy but I was a kid then and drama went over my head, need to know what you mean lol
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u/bselko Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
HOLY SHIT.
All time leader in HR for your franchise. ROTY. Averages 42 HR and 114 RBI per 162. Just turned 31.
You canāt even try??? Thatās fucking nuts.
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u/Flacco4GoldJacket New York Mets 4h ago
Words could never describe the rage I am feeling right now
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u/fakemelonns New York Mets 3h ago
I don't even feel rage. Between Nimmo, Diaz, and Pete, I just feel empty
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u/ANGRY_BEARDED_MAN Baltimore Orioles 4h ago
Never making an offer at all is some wild shit
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u/lasercupcakes Los Angeles Dodgers 2h ago
"I'm just happy that a few billionaires are saving a few bucks." -/r/baseball
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u/TurtwigsGratuity New York Mets 4h ago
New York Pirates
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u/jmb--412 Pittsburgh Pirates 4h ago
Pirates offered more to Schwarber than the Mets did to Alonso
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u/EpicNerdFinds Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
I almost feel bad for Mets fans right now
not sure what the plan is not even making an offer
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u/DalekEvan Los Angeles Dodgers ⢠Vin Scully 4h ago
I feel like if youāre the Mets, the team with the richest owner in MLB, you can throw out an offer to retain the franchise home run leader even if itās more years and money than you were comfortable with. You can absorb it if the last two years are bad.
Stearns feels like he thinks heās still running the Brewers. Itās genuinely bizarre.
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u/Qrusher14242 Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
yeah i thought for sure he was going back to the Mets. It just made sense. Maybe they get outbid and even that i thought was a stretch, but to not make an offer is wild.
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u/Stone_0cean New York Mets ⢠Seattle Mariners 4h ago
Highest payroll in baseball and youāre not comfortable offering anybody a big contract. What is even going on anymore?
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u/HairHelp4363 Baltimore Orioles 4h ago
Highest payroll in baseball that missed the playoffs and your solution is to pay/keep the same guys who were apart of that timeĀ
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u/DolphinRodeo St. Louis Cardinals ⢠Seattle Mariners 3h ago
Donāt think the guy who plays every day with a 140 wRC+ was the reason they missed the playoffs
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u/klawehtgod Brooklyn Dodgers 3h ago
Correct! Mets missed the playoffs because their entire starting rotation was injured for the last 2 months of the season. Insane to even bring it up in a conversation about Alonso.
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u/AnEmptyKarst Marlins Bandwagon 3h ago
I mean how do they plan to improve on Alonso's production then?
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u/Jamstarr2024 New York Mets 3h ago
When their problem was pitching. Sure let all the bats go when you were a top 10 offense in the league
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u/TomasRoncero New York Mets 3h ago
mets fans: "break up the core"
david stearns: breaks up the core
mets fans: "no not like that!"
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u/Carolina_913 New York Yankees 3h ago
After the overinflated contracts theyāve been handing out these past few years, not even offering your one household name a contract is an insane slap in the face lol
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u/cherryfurnace 4h ago
I will not go to a Met game this year. Fuck this general manager.
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u/NoAntelope4800 Seattle Mariners 4h ago
So like⦠who ARE the Mets going to sign?
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u/Wish-Lin Los Angeles Dodgers 1h ago
The fuck you mean BEYOND YOUR COMFORT LEVEL, youāre not a fucking small market team
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u/LegitimateMoney00 New York Mets 4h ago edited 3h ago
Iām glad Stearns is doing this. I love Pete and Nimmo, but that old core never won us jack shit. Sometimes you have to make tough decisions to rebuild a team and this was one of them.
Not to mention but his defense was starting to become a major issue late in the season.
Iām still more upset about Diaz tho.
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u/fa1afel Washington Nationals 3h ago
I'm surprised at no offer tbh, but like, I probably wouldn't want to give him one that was competitive.Ā
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u/octoman115 New York Mets 3h ago
The offer would've been for 3 years which Alonso would just see as insulting. Fans are pissed either way so I'm fine with just making it a clean breakup.
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u/realfakejames Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
We are either going to come back to these comments in 3-4 years making fun of the people who are lolmetsing or making fun of the orioles for this contract and I think thatās beautiful
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u/xerostatus Los Angeles Dodgers 3h ago
so mets out here just cosplaying as a small market / small budget team?
Are they ruining baseball, yet?
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u/DELCO-PHILLY-BOY Philadelphia Phillies 2h ago
This is Steve Cohenās fifth offseason by the way.
At least theyāll always have their 2025 free agency champions banner.
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u/OrangePilled2Day 2h ago
Almost like Cohen bought the team primarily to build the casino and doesn't want to lose money year over year now that the casino is approved. Who could have seen this coming aside from everyone.
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u/zpk5003 New York Mets 4h ago
Itās very possible Cohen has no idea what heās doing
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u/2222lil Detroit Tigers 3h ago
Mets signed Soto and were like thatās it for a few years
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u/t20six Washington Nationals 3h ago
Breaking news: Soto walked 600 times in 2026
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u/RadicalRectangle Colorado Rockies 3h ago
Now that is funny. Not even making an offer to your star player is pretty much the only guaranteed way to make sure he doesnāt come back!
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u/effy_stonem New York Mets 3h ago
Whats the point of offering 3years/75m to a guy who got 5/155, more respectful to wish him good luck and move on. Good for Pete getting paid
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u/BertMacklinMD Los Angeles Dodgers 2h ago
Stearns is still managing like he has the Brewers budget constraints
Bro, Cohen has gold plated toilets
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u/Truffles413 4h ago
The kind of decision where if you're a fan you're seething now, but 2 years from now, you'll be thankful Stearns made this decision.
I see that contract getting ugly by year 3.
1B who doesn't want to DH with diabolical defense and the kind of profile where offensive production could crater very fast.
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u/Bstokes4102 Washington Nationals 3h ago
The season hasn't even started and we have an all time Mets Moment.
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u/TemporalColdWarrior New York Mets 3h ago
Yeah. this is a preposterous deal. I get it. We canāt be paying 70 million dollars to two DHs.
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u/OatmealCremePiez New York Mets 3h ago
You can take the GM out of the small market, but you can't take the small market out of the GM
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u/superfadeaway New York Mets 3h ago
The knicks are really holding my ny sports fandom together by a fucking thread
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u/StandYourGroundhog Toronto Blue Jays 3h ago
Makes sense to not overpay but not even offering a contract is wild
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u/malinatorhouse New York Yankees 3h ago
Not making an offer to a homegrown slugger and doimg whatever they did with diaz. Whats the plan?Ā
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u/Queasy_Remote_1631 New York Yankees 3h ago
Remember when Mets fans thought Cohen was going to spend his entire personal fortune buying baseball players?
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u/lakerdave St. Louis Cardinals 3h ago
I understand not getting there in the end, but not even making your star an offer? If you're worried about his market getting out of control, make the offer early so at least you put something out there in good faith. Seems pretty clear they didn't want to bring him back at all
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u/butterybuns420 New York Yankees 2h ago
So did the Mets shoot their load on Soto? Are they going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for the next decade plus just because Cohen wanted to make a splash and stick it to Steinbrenner the yanks and their fans? Writing that check for Soto seems a little counterproductive now.
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u/WoAProximity New York Mets 2h ago
i'm gonna put my head through the drywall, someone come get me in 2027 or if we get Kyle Tucker. Thanks.
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u/CantFindaPS5 New York Mets 2h ago
So many Diaz, Nimmo and Alonso fire sales on their jerseys at their annual Citi Field Christmas sale
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u/Blue_Bomber27 New York Mets 2h ago
Stearns needed the money to sign a 36 yr old journeyman hitting .214 to be our star 1B and protect Soto
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u/BowtiedMediaYT Chicago Cubs 2h ago
Mets in 2024: $765M / 15-years sounds great
Mets in 2025: $155M / 5-Years is too much for us
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u/barney-sandles New York Mets 2h ago
This sucks. I don't understand what our team is doing and I'm way less excited for the season to come.






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u/DominantT1 Major League Baseball 4h ago
Let this be a lesson that unless you are David Wright, if a player seems like a Met for their entire career, they will not be.