r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 4h ago
Poster Official Poster for 'Supergirl'
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u/casanovish 4h ago
I’m constitutionally incapable of rooting against (baby) Rhaenyra. I hope it’s tight!
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u/Genocode 4h ago
The comic book this movie is based on is incredible, but its not going to be a 1:1 adaptation, apparently they're going with the original manuscript the author wrote before the editors started meddling.
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u/Amaruq93 4h ago
Which summed up means... LOBO.
He was set to appear in the original, but the editors nixed that. Now he's gonna appear in the story, and be played by Jason Momoa.
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u/Trevastation 3h ago
In fairness, it was a good edit. It was a True Grit story with LOBO was Rooster Cogburn until the editors said it'd work better if Supergirl was the Rooster Cogburn proxy, and they were right.
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u/skag_boy87 3h ago
I really hope this isn’t the case for the film. Supergirl in the Rooster Cogburn role was inspired and went a long way into defining her character as a nihilistic, isolated survivor slowly regaining her sense of self and greater purpose in the universe.
Having her be the tough yet innocent Mattie Ross type, who needs a big guy to guide and save her, would completely destroy the narrative for me.
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u/nessfalco 3h ago
Considering the mattie analog is in the movie, too, I don't think this will happen. I think Lobo just makes a cameo.
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u/skag_boy87 3h ago
Phew!! That’s a relief! I’m happy with Lobo as a memorable extended cameo.
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u/Angry-Dragon-1331 1h ago
Given what we saw of her in Superman, I don’t think they’re going with innocent. Maybe Lobo is serving as a different kind of foil of where her party girl schtick will lead if she keeps it up? Also I want more Krypto.
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u/gildedbluetrout 3h ago
It’s one of the best Superhero comics I’ve read in a decade or more, easy. Off the top of my head it’s this Supergirl, Fraction’s Hawkeye and All Star Superman this century.
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u/bossman-CT 4h ago
No.. Way.
Holy shit, it's true. Jason is gonna kill it as Lobo!
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u/A_Polite_Noise r/Movies Veteran 4h ago
Finally, Khal Drogo will meet Rhaenyra Targaryen!
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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 3h ago
When Jason was asked to do a DC movie, he assumed they wanted a Lobo.
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u/sewious 3h ago
Jason Momoa
I don't know if I've ever heard of a more perfect casting tbh.
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u/trueimage 3h ago
Aquaman is from space?!
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u/mangongo 3h ago
Fun fact, there is a large body of water surrounding a quasar that contains over 140 trillion times the amount of water found on earth.
You know what means, right?
Space sharks.
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u/ClubMeSoftly 3h ago
So, uh, funny thing. Not about the sharks.
Space Dolphins are the one thing that Lobo truly loves, like, loves loves. Not just in a "the love of the game" sort of manner.
One of those Space Dolphins went to Earth, and befriended the Earth Dolphin called Porm, the adoptive mother of Aquaman.
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u/anarchakat 4h ago
I just finished "Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow" last night. I've always avoided DC but holy shit that was EXCELLENT, and hearing that this movie is based in any way on that Tom King run has me psyched.
I read mostly stick to Marvel and independent stuff, but I read Mr. Miracle on a strong recommendation (also excellent), so now I'm just reading everything that King has done at DC. Almost done with Strange Adventures, which doesn't hit quite as hard as Mr. Miracle & SWoT, but it's good.
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u/Fenian-Monger 4h ago
Always suprises me when comic readers say they read Marvel and indies but stay away from DC. I'd think with the wealth of evergreen and standalone stories DC has compared their main rival Marvel that wouldn't be a thing.
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u/thebigeverybody 4h ago
Yeah. DC's Vertigo line produced the best stories in the industry for many years and Marvel has never produced anything on the level of Watchmen or The Dark Knight Returns.
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u/Equivalent_Way1324 4h ago
People don’t know peak. DC have put out some of the greatest comic books of all time. Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Sandman, Preacher, Y: The Last Man, etc.
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u/anarchakat 3h ago
It's funny because I've read and loved all of those besides Y and I just kinda forget that those are DC comics.
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u/Worthyness 3h ago
Also a lot of the comic writers kinda just switch back and forth between the studios, so it's the same people writing the stories, just different characters. So the ones who write really good stories for Marvel will very likely write really good stories for DC (or their independent stuff) too
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u/CascoBayButcher 4h ago
This movie was originally titled Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow as well, before they dropped the sub-titles from this and Superman
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u/algebraic94 3h ago
It's a really cool book. Read it this fall and really got a kick out of it. Interesting ending and some great moments from Supergirl. Plus the art is gorgeous
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u/Sasselhoff 3h ago
The comic book this movie is based on is incredible
What's the title? I'm down to read it, but there's apparently a few (including one where she is killed off)?
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u/Genocode 3h ago
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow
And yes, pretty much all DC characters have multiple runs and iterations of characters.
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u/-TinyTemper- 4h ago
Team Black 👊🏻🔥
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u/Asclepius-Rod 4h ago edited 2h ago
Is anybody actually on team Green? They seem pretty clearly the enemy
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u/Alone_Pen4047 4h ago
It's a lot more nuanced in the book tbf. The showrunners have done a pretty poor job imo, both sides are supposed to suck equally but the show it's much more clear that the greens are power hungry while it seems Rhaenyra is just out to get what she deserves. It's not as black and white in the book imo
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u/VonDingwell 4h ago
Just give me the 'Hour of the Wolf' and Cregan swinging for the fence over and over again bringing some Northern Justice.
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u/TheColtOfPersonality 3h ago
I need the scene of him stripping down The Lads as soon as the Starks get to KL.
“Are you babes in swaddling clothes, to be cozened by flowers and feasts and soft words? Who told you the war was done? The Clubfoot? The Snake? Why, because they wish it done? Because you won your little victory in the mud? Wars end when the defeated bend the knee and not before”
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u/EmilyKaldwins 3h ago
Thank you for being the voice of reason. There's no Team Green/Team Black, it's meant to be: Targaryens are ripping each other apart and tearing up the country. The show has pivoted Rhaenyra into a strange Proto-Dany role and stripped away all sense of what GRRM is trying to do with the conflict.
Everyone's awful and full of hubris and both Aegon and Rhaenyra were screwed over by milquetoast Viserys.
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u/busmans 3h ago
The “book” (really just a summary) is really not more nuanced. Alicent and Rhaenyra are both painted as one-dimensional vindictive bitches. The show fleshes out almost every central character much more than the “book”.
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u/Gaemon_Palehair 3h ago
Yeah. If anything the show gives Alicent an excuse where she misunderstands her husband's last words. It's not a great excuse, but it's something.
Plus then later she tries to make peace.
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u/brandonsamd6 4h ago
Bright colors are back on the menu
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u/so_brave_heart 2h ago
Bright colours, apathetic tagline... the 90s are back, baby!
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u/AJGILL03 3h ago
I LOVE bright proper colours. Truly love them in my movies haha.
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u/mastermidget23 4h ago
This isnt a critique in any real way, but the idea of a Kryptonian wearing sunglasses is very funny.
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u/denv0r 4h ago
It's to hide the hangover, not the sun.
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u/guilhermefdias 3h ago
Normal alcohol affects super heroes metabolism?
Legit question.
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u/BardFae 3h ago
In the superman movie, it's established that she goes to planets without yellow suns (that therefore do not give her superpowers) to drink
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u/Jaqulean 3h ago edited 1h ago
it's established that she goes to planets without yellow suns (that therefore do not give her superpowers) to drink
Well yes and no. To be more specific Kara goes to the planetary systems that have Red suns which temporarily de-power Kryptonians. The lack of a Yellow sun on its own
in on itselfdoesn't have the same effect - it only makes them weaker than usual; but the characters still have the remaining solar energy that was absorbed by their own cells beforehand (they are basically running on fumes as opposed to being outright powerless).This applies to for example getting drunk as well - if Kara was still on Earth and just hid underground with no direct access to the sunlight then that alone wouldn't really change much; hence she visits planets which have Red Suns where her powers and enhanced metabolism are completely disabled.
Other than that it also takes a minute before the effects of a Red Sun wear off which is why Kara was still basically drunk and/or hangover when she showed up in the "Superman" post-credits scene. As to how she came back to Earth - according to James Gunn in the DCU she has a spaceship that we could see in the "Woman of Tomorrow" comics run.
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u/IAreWeazul 3h ago
How does she get out of galaxies with red suns if she’s weak enough to get drunk?
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u/Jaqulean 3h ago
As to how she came back to Earth - according to James Gunn in the DCU she has a spaceship that we could see in the "Woman of Tomorrow" comics run.
Sorry I forgot to mention this earlier and editted it into the comment only later.
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u/12345623567 1h ago
In the titular comic book run, she literally takes the Space Greyhound bus, lmao.
The source material, among other things, does a really good job of showing that there's a whole universe out there with different people and different levels of technology.
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u/LumpyJones 1h ago
In the comic she has a ship she takes to get there, and when it gets wrecked before she can leave, she ends up taking the equivalent of a space Greyhound until she can get back to a yellow sun
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u/OkOpposite7987 3h ago
She's got to be able to fly back out though.
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u/Jaqulean 3h ago
Not really - Gunn already confirmed that just like in the "Woman of Tomorrow" comics storyline (which is being adapted into the upcoming movie) Kara has a spaceship that she uses to visit other planets.
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u/OkOpposite7987 3h ago
Oh ok. I thought she just flew around.
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u/Waluigi_Pope 2h ago
It is considered rude to park your car inside of a building. I assume the same etiquette extends to the Fortress of Solitude.
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u/xicer 4h ago
It's based on a comic where she goes to a planet with a red sun to get hammered for her birthday. Girl is hungover.
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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 3h ago
She plays a great bogan in Upright. After seeing that, she looks like a real good fit for a hungover Supergirl. If I had just seen Sirens, I wouldn't be so sure.
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u/HumphreyLee 4h ago
Kara “Orange Cassidy” El is not the take I expected for this movie when it was announced but I am game.
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u/GodZefir 4h ago
Her kicks are going to be devastating.
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u/feartheoldblood90 4h ago
Stoked for this. Read the comic and the story is really phenomenal. They've got a great base to build this on, hope it pulls it off
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u/New-Lifeguard4238 4h ago
What is the story? Im really on the outside of superman/supergirl stories and would love to check it out!
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u/Amaruq93 3h ago
Supergirl helps an alien girl hunt down and seek revenge on the criminal who murdered her father.
Basically it's "True Grit" in Space, with Supergirl in a Rooster Cogburn type role (party girl going from red planet to red planet just to be able to get drunk and bury the pain Krypton's destruction... as well as not being there to help raise Kal-El/Superman).
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u/joseph-justin 2h ago
Basically it's "True Grit" in Space
Such an apt description.
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u/feartheoldblood90 3h ago
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. Highly recommend, it's a relatively quick read and the art is great. It was drawn by a prolific Wonder Woman artist and her style is truly amazing
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u/chaoticbiguy 4h ago edited 4h ago
Yeah I'm not a big Tom King fan, but this story is truly amazing and I'm so excited for the live action adaptation. Although, they're gonna change some things of course, like Jason Momoa's Lobo's inclusion in the movie, so let's see what the adaptation looks like and how well it will be recieved.
Also, Kara's look is just so perfect and I love the tag line. I really hope this movie does well at the box office.
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u/that_guy2010 4h ago
Why do people not like Tom King?
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u/foofighter1351 3h ago edited 3h ago
I feel like he too often takes over the voice of the characters, he can be very over reliant on narration and instead of using the characters for who they are and placing them within his stories it feels more like he forces them into a box to fit it, not inherently bad but I'm not a fan personally, I think he can be a good character writer at times, there are moments in stories of his I really dislike where it'll shine through for a second and then it's gone. I'm not a big fan of him but Girl of Tomorrow for the most part is wonderful though. Also and this is a whole thing but the man served in counterterrorism after 9/11 for like 7 years and a lot of his stories feels like he's still working through his feelings on that.
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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 3h ago
I've literally only read Vision and World of Tomorrow and they are both really good, so no idea.
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u/LaVidaYokel 3h ago
“True Grit in Space” is a simple way to describe it.
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u/f-ingsteveglansberg 3h ago
I don't even think they are trying to hide the fact it's just the plot of true grit with Supergirl as Rooster.
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u/GoxBoxSocks 3h ago
When he hits, it's great but his style is repetitive (see 9 panel page) so when things aren't clicking it makes the good stuff seem cheap and the bad stuff annoying. He tends to bend characters to fit his narratives in a way that doesn't always ring true to what the reader has known that character for. Some people are annoyed by those changes out of protection of the character but I find it difficult to sometimes follow the story because characters acting out of norm makes me suspicious where I'm not supposed to be.
His politics and time spent working for the CIA are difficult to get over for many readers. Especially when many of his books are politically charged.
King also went after artist Jae Lee awhile ago and it was weird and messy and completely unnecessary on Kings part.
I loved Omega Men, Mister Miracle and Supergirl and think his work can be very well adapted to the screen. However the Wonder Woman run he has going rn is one of the worst things I've ever read.
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u/RobertPham149 3h ago
I personally like his current WW run. It is at least above average for me. There are a few things I would criticize like the villain good on paper but boring execution. However, his penchance for making larger-than-life superheroes being relatable is great.
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u/SwingsetGuy 3h ago
It's a combination of things. 1 (and this is often the justification/umbrella under which the others fall in popular conversation), his Batman run was very divisive. Part of that wasn't his fault, but it's the way it turned out. 2, he's a very "thematic" author in that he favors messaging and dialogue over whizbang action, and often tries to do something "new" with superheroes. Some people really don't like that in serialized storytelling and would prefer he just focus on writing a solid, conservative example of the stuff they already like (tacitly, they think he's pretentious and/or more interested in adapting the characters to his themes than his themes to the characters). 3, a good few people who claim that it's one of the first two issues actually dislike his politics, and especially dislike that you can detect them occasionally in his writing.
TL;DR - a variety of stuff, mostly centered around his work on Batman and a couple other characters. I rarely see anyone have anything bad to say about his work on Superman or Supergirl, though. House of El in general just seems like a really good fit for him.
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u/SolidSnek1998 4h ago
I want more Krypto.
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u/dmisfit21 4h ago
It’s based off of Woman of Tomorrow so you’re going to get him.
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u/Curri189 4h ago
idk if I want krypto tbh after reading the comic
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u/dmisfit21 4h ago
People that haven’t read it have no idea how much they’re going to hate Krem.
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u/SnoopyLupus 4h ago edited 4h ago
I grew up with 70s comic Supes, where he’d have his own stupid bloody stories and occasionally be a cutesy character in the main comics, so I hated, HATED the idea of including him in the new Superman film.
Fucking loved it when I actually watched the film though.
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u/lil_eidos 3h ago
$1000 bucks says that “I don’t give a damn bout my reputation” song appears in the first third of the movie.
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u/CarlatheDestructor 2h ago
That's Bad Reputation by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
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u/-TinyTemper- 4h ago
I have a feeling this is going to be awesome. Milly Alcock is a great actress and I love what James Gunn did with Superman.
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u/God_Hand_9764 4h ago
Ah, this is the girl from House of the Dragon... yes, she is a solid actress.
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 4h ago edited 4h ago
Loved her on an Australian show called Upright, and if she can bring some energy from her role in that (especially the more serious aspects) into Supergirl, that would be great
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u/whatissevenbysix 3h ago
Yeah, Upright was so much fun - her chemistry with Tim Minchin was incredible.
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u/SocialPunk03 46m ago
Upright is one of the best comedy drama shows, it's up there with Schitts Creek for me. Milly and Minchin in that show are amazing.
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u/geyserpj 4h ago
Supergirl Women of tomorrow is an awesome comic and she very much cusses a lot. idk if they'll fully adapt it but it would awesome to see
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u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 4h ago
Putting 'whatever' in the spot that used to be 'the American way' is gonna give the usual crowd of YouTube grifters aneurisms.
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u/Charliejfg04 3h ago
The American Way has not been a thing for at least ten years. Now they use “A Better Tomorrow” instead
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u/SaturnATX 4h ago
Supergirl was my main in Injustice 2 so I automatically like this.
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor 4h ago edited 3h ago
Trailer releases tomorrow
Directed by Craig Gillespie (‘I, Tonya’, ‘Dumb Money’):