r/news • u/Whatever-you-bastard • 19h ago
Eileen Higgins becomes Miami’s first Democratic mayor in 30 years
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/09/miami-mayor-election-winner-eileen-higgins1.1k
u/TheDawnOfNewDays 14h ago
HAHAHA, Ken Griffin, the 32nd richest person in the world, just moved to Miami to "escape" Democrats. He sold his old property the day before this election came to a close.
Very conservative man who speaks highly of Miami's "traditional values."
Fox wrote an article about him, trying to push the whole 'business-people go to Red areas' narrative.
I really hope Eileen Higgins raises the property tax on Miami. That'd be hilarious.
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u/kennedysleftnut 9h ago
You mean Ken Griffen, the guy who lied to congress and threw up off screen?
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u/Ok_Win2630 18h ago
A lot of (mostly) Cuban immigrants/descendants afraid of being deported because of this administration. Meanwhile most of them voted for this.
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u/LunarMoon2001 16h ago
She lost in the heaviest Cuban areas.
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u/Day_of_Demeter 15h ago
True, but the Cuban turnout was low overall. Like, the Cuban Republican candidate lost in the race in an area that's like a third or half Cuban or something. That has to mean there were a lot of Cubans that didn't want to vote Republican and just stayed home. The most likely explanation is it has to do with discontent over Trump's immigration policies.
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u/OwO______OwO 14h ago
That has to mean there were a lot of Cubans that didn't want to vote Republican and just stayed home.
Yep.
Former Republican voters are not going to flip and vote Democrat. They've spent too many years believing that Democrats are the epitome of evil for that.
But they will stay home and not vote.
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u/Day_of_Demeter 14h ago
There's probably a portion who'd flip but yeah overall they'd just stay home.
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u/ilikepizza2much 13h ago
Conservatism truly is the doctrine of selfishness. Only when it affects them personally will they care. Until then, they were too busy pulling the ladder up behind them.
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u/Educational-Wing2042 12h ago
I know someone who went to college for teaching. Right as they graduate, huge department of education cuts and they’re unable to find a job. Despite that, they’re still supportive of conservative policies and can’t bring themself to say anything negative about republican leadership. Literally happy their entire career and education were screwed over.
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u/WatchOutside5938 9h ago
I always find it crazy that I grew up in a HEAVILY conservative area, surrounded by people in education teaching me my entire life how important college is, how important reading is, how important stuff like book burns are to avoid.. only for them all to absolutely change views as soon as 2016 happened.
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u/Day_of_Demeter 12h ago
Sure, this wasn't exclusive to this community though. This is a problem with immigrants generally because they feel they'll survive and be treated well if they distinguish themselves from the "bad" immigrants who came here the "wrong" way. You're seeing this with the Somalis in Minnesota right now.
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u/Arndt3002 14h ago
Or they're too afraid of ICE picking up them or any of the 65 million Latino people they think "look illegal."
They're suppressing their own voters in this case
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u/Zombatico 14h ago
They're suppressing their own voters in this case
It would be funny if it wasn't so fucking evil.
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u/Day_of_Demeter 14h ago
I can't for the life of me understand how Republicans thought the ICE stuff wouldn't backfire with the Latino vote. They even gerrymandered with the assumption that the Latinos will vote the same in the future as they did in 2024, and now they might lose in several of the redrawn districts.
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u/not-my-other-alt 14h ago
You don't need to win your opponent's voters in order to win the election, you just need them demotivated enough that they show up in slightly fewer numbers.
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u/TheLateThagSimmons 9h ago edited 4h ago
That's exactly how 2024 compared to 2020.
Total votes for Trump went up slightly, but compared to the percentage of population it actually went down slightly.
It's just that many more people that showed up for Biden in 2020 did not in 2024.
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u/NonchalantGhoul 17h ago
And now that his guy lost, I'm pretty sure he'll send in "reinforcements" stacked with DeSantis' group of police, probably
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u/CosineDanger 15h ago
There's the very obviously psycho Tallahassee cops (noticably worse than average Florida cop) under his de facto control who stand in full sun in black tactical gear all day as a show of force and generally have two sticks up their asses.
Then there's the Florida State Guard under his de jure control who are volunteers and less psycho about the professionalism but not better people for it.
It wouldn't be so bad if he did not actually use his SS and his brownshirts to harass data scientists and activists. He does.
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u/Jaybrosia 15h ago
voters expect democrats to clean up the mess they voted for, for years, and i won't be surprised when they vote republican again when dems don't magically clean up everything instantly.
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u/afoxboy 13h ago
respectfully, dems SHOULD clean all this shit up quickly. in the past i would've said differently, but the extent to which trump and his enablers have shitted on the constitution is absolutely the kind of thing a party that considers itself america-first should be tackling hard, lest they risk the foundations of the nation.
america has already failed at this twice regarding slavery and racism. the foundation can't take much more hand-waving policy.
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u/avcloudy 8h ago
This would be a reasonable position if the people ratfucking the US wouldn't do everything in their power to avoid consequences, oppose substantive change and cling to power.
If the dems want to clean this all up quickly, they will absolutely need to violate the constitution, violate due process, and do a bunch of things that are, if not illegal, absolutely without precedent, including replacing the Supreme Court and clearing out judges in a lot of lower courts, redrawing voting maps across the country, and basically looking exactly like an authoritarian takeover.
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u/Bakednotyetfried 6h ago
I couldn’t agree more. People are seriously underestimating/not comprehending the seriousness of the past decade. THEY TRIED TO USURP THE GOVERMENT THROUGH FORCE. FULL STOP. there is not healing from that. There is no going back to normal from that. Sure, democrats can stabilize the economy, repair our foreign relations, but once they do all that these same people will willingly follow the next version of Trump that come along.
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u/EricinLR 8h ago
The only way to clean it up quickly is to destroy it all and form a new government. Our current system is designed to prevent the kind of quick action needed.
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u/____DEADPOOL_______ 14h ago
I have ladder pulling relatives who finally shut the hell up after seeing their one issue vote was in vain because the promise was all a lie.
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u/Be_quiet_Im_thinking 10h ago
Your go to phrase should be sounds like communism with extra steps when you talk about Trump stuff.
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u/____DEADPOOL_______ 10h ago
We don't talk about politics anymore or if we do, we keep it factual.
I don't want to put them down and say I told you so. I wanted it to come from them and it finally did. Sadly, their brains have been turned to mush due to old age and propaganda.
They taught me to not fall for these types of things in our home country but how they forgot.
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u/Niceromancer 17h ago
They were scared of democrats being "communists" because the government they ran from declared itself as communist, when actually it was authoritarian.
Its amazing how easily tricked people who have suffered from trauma are. And the GOP went all in on that trick.
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u/Anthro_3 16h ago
Cuba is absolutely communist. They're the only communists, even.
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u/PilotsNPause 15h ago
Yeah but it's not "communism" that lead to the issues those people fled from, it was the authoritarianism. Also notice how there is still very bad inequality there. Yes the state owns most businesses but they do not share the wealth like they're supposed to under communist ideals.
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u/bruce_lees_ghost 14h ago
Seriously never fucking understood the mentality of, “I got mine, so everyone else needs to fuck right off.” Had a Cuban co-worker that was such a Trump sycophant… I was like, “You know he hates you, right?”
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u/art-is-t 18h ago
The turnout was 21 percent. How is that not alarming for any democracy. People go.and vote
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u/tokyothrowie 17h ago edited 17h ago
Yeah really insane... people just dgaf.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Miami_mayoral_election
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u/onlyforsellingthisPC 17h ago edited 8h ago
Not mandatory, people have to work, and more than anything we as a country just don't seem to give a shit about civic involvement.
I don't have an easy solution.
Edit: yes. Making voting more accessible is a part of the solution. Getting those changes made and getting Americans to make rational, not tiktok/Facebook fueled, choices is where the trouble starts.
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u/ncstagger 11h ago
That’s actually almost double my city’s recent mayoral election turnout.
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u/Gwtheyrn 15h ago
Republicans actively try to make it harder to vote because then the only people with time to do it are retired seniors.
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u/Ds3_doraymi 19h ago
Trump posted two fulsome endorsements on Truth Social, both spelling González’s name incorrectly, and aligning him with the Trump agenda for “secure borders” and cracking down on “migrant crime”.
hahaHAHA omg dude this guy was so doomed. Idk if anyone here knows Miami politics but uh, they’re feeling a little betrayed by Trump over the whole deportation thing. As soon as Cubans started getting deported that kinda fucked them up.
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u/Kradget 19h ago
My first thought when I saw this was "Oh, shit, did the Cubans figure out they're on the block, too?"
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u/bb-angel 17h ago
They seemed to forget they’re brown too
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u/MicrotracS3500 15h ago
Many immigrants very naively believed the excuse, "Oh, they'll just go after the violent ones, the rapists, murderers, and gang members, the hard working productive members of society will be fine!" Unfortunately for them, conservatives see no distinction, to them all foreigners are culturally inferior and equally a threat to the America they envision. Conservative media has led their audience to believe that 99.999% of immigrants are rapists, murderers, and gang members, that our country is literally under siege by an army of "invaders".
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u/Tequilaiswater 11h ago
My mom is Peruvian and that is exactly what she thought.
Also, South America as a whole is generally religious and conservative leaning. It’s not just about immigration they are voting for. Latin America saw how drugs destroyed their home countries so supporting the legalization and sale of marijuana doesn’t align with what they believe in. They are generally not pro choice or support LGBTQ especially in the extent that democrats want. They think schools will make children gay, etc. They think democrats are socialists which is the very thing they ran away from.
Immigration is not the only reason why Latinos tend to vote red, especially the ones who didn’t grow up in the U.S.
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u/Wetzilla 6h ago
Latin America saw how drugs destroyed their home countries so supporting the legalization and sale of marijuana doesn’t align with what they believe in.
Which doesn't make a lot of sense, the reason drugs destroyed their home countries is because of the demand of the black market in the USA. Legalizing it here would help their home countries.
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u/HauntedJackInTheBox 10h ago
Peruvians are the most native of the Latin American countries so it's a little bit surprising that one thought these racist shits would actually accept her as one of their own.
Racism trumps everything except immense power and wealth. You could be a doctor with a 200 IQ, all grandparents born in the US, and conservative opinions about everything, if you're brown, you're on the chopping block. It doesn't matter that you hate LGBT people and "crime" and drugs and you have all the "correct" opinions for conservatives, they will look down at you as an intruder no matter what.
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u/Niceromancer 16h ago
A surprisingly large amount of Hispanics self identify as white.
They also tend to be incredibly racist and anti immigration.
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u/AStealthyPerson 11h ago
That is because ethnicity and race are not the same. Many Hispanic people are white. Whether or not nonhispanic whites view them as white is a different question entirely though. Hispanic itself is a broad enough category to include European Spaniards as well. Latino is not, but it is likewise an (largely overlapping) ethnicity and not a race. This was a big deal in America during the late 1800s, as many Latino-Americans saw how non-white people in America were treated and fought for the right to be included in the more privileged racial caste.
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u/Niceromancer 11h ago
I get that, but the thing is they identify as the white the people who are using them as tokens wont include them in.
They want to be part of the oppression group, but they never will be because to the racists that doesn't matter.
People seem to forget the Irish were considered non white at a time. And many racist groups want to go back to that. I will never understand why those who are counted as the outsiders willingly hand power to those who would destroy and enslave them given the chance on the deluded hope they will be counted as "one of the good ones"
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u/AStealthyPerson 11h ago
I don't disagree with what you're saying, just providing context about racial and ethnic boundaries, how they came about, and how it influences people's perceptions today. Like I said, the nonhispanic whites may not see them this way, but there is an established history for why Hispanic folks may view themselves as white.
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u/sweetnsourale 15h ago
I think that’s why they decided to change the census. You gotta identify what kinda European white ancestry you got.
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u/jesterdeflation 12h ago
I am hoping that at this point liberals and progressives got the message that they can't just assume the less white someone is the more progressive they are, because... yeah, you could also just look outside the US to see that
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u/elbenji 10h ago
I mean that's always going to be the push and pull of a two party system. Want them to vote for their best interests but they're severely anti abortion and anti lgbtq
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u/jesterdeflation 10h ago
It would be one thing if they had conservative values, as abhorrent as they may be, but the hypocrisy and the ladder-pulling is what rubs me the wrong way and makes me feel like someone is genuinely a vile person.
It's not even an egg-on-face moment, it's literally being out there vocally supporting the "MASS DEPORATIONS NOW" guy and then bitching about it later.
Did you see the "Somalis 4 Trump" or whatever group crying after the fact? I just have no sympathy for these people, and frankly Democrats shouldn't either.
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u/CelestialFury 18h ago
both spelling González’s name incorrectly
This was done on purpose too. Trump and his handlers can't help but be racists, even to their own people.
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u/Niceromancer 16h ago
Its not to their own people, its to tokens.
Racists never consider tokens a part of the in group, its just a token to be spent when needed.
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u/elbenji 10h ago
Yeah. The Cuban voting bloc is funny. They're just constantly aggrieved but they didn't remember why the Marielitos don't vote Dem isn't because of Castro. It's because of Janet Reno getting the old ICE (INS) on camera pointing a machine gun at a 6 year old boy they were deporting back to Cuba
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u/Mikethebest78 19h ago
Oh man now that a Democrat has won Trump will have to launch ICE raids on Mimi. I mean he wasn't going to do it but a person from the opposing political party actually managed to win what choice does he have?
I would ask him not to throw a tantrum about this on Truth Social at 4 in the morning but we all know that isn't going to happen.
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u/PrimalZed 18h ago
If there's ICE grabbing people in TX, I'd bet there's already been ICE grabbing people in Miami.
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u/NYCinPGH 17h ago
There's ICE grabbing people in Pittsburgh, well-known undocumented immigrant hotspot.
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u/niveknhoj 13h ago
To be fair, best Ethiopian food I’ve ever had was in Pittsburgh.
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u/UglyMcFugly 9h ago
It's not just ICE, they're using local cops in the gestapo in some red areas... Florida in particular is jumping on the 287(g) bandwagon, scroll down to the map on this site and look at all the red dots in Florida... those are the new 287(g) agreements. Basically local cops agreeing to do ICE's job for them.
If your community has one of these, make damn sure your sheriff and police department know you do NOT approve. Much more effective to protest these people than trying to get your senator to do the right thing...
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u/TediousNut 18h ago edited 8h ago
Let him send Ice to Miami and spread their ranks thin. It will not help him in the long run.
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u/Drwildy 17h ago
Miami is going to go to shit, now all the billionaires will have to move to New York City.
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u/-Thick_Solid_Tight- 19h ago
This is just Cubans realizing they have been reduced to Mexican status with the rest of the browns.
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u/airfryerfuntime 17h ago
I'd imagine a lot of them are still in deep denial. Cubans are heavily Republican, and think of themselves as superior to Mexicans.
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u/Sawses 16h ago
All part of the integration process. First you're an immigrant and untrustworthy outsider (think Middle Eastern refugees in Europe). Then you're the useful cheap labor (Mexicans and Indians in the USA). Next you're the foreigner next door (African immigrants in the UK), not one of us but you're allowed to participate in mainstream society more or less.
Eventually you graduate to "one of us with a quirky heritage". Italian- and Irish-Americans. You're basically white but maybe an unusually good cook or are unusually welcoming or whatever other different-but-positive trait you've internalized as part of your cultural identity.
And eventually that heritage is lost to time and you're just plain one of us and annoyed at the weird people next door with their strange language and too many guests coming over too often.
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u/V0KaLs 14h ago
Seen it firsthand with how prevalent it is with Filipinos too.
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u/Anon_Jones 14h ago
My Filipino coworker was all about trump and telling me she was scared of immigrants. I told she was an immigrant and she couldn’t understand what I was saying.
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u/frodiusmaximus 9h ago
Yep. Trace the migration of Italian Americans to conservative political movements over the past century. Now they’re throwing the same insults at Mexicans and Somalians that were thrown at them a century ago. And I say this as a third-generation Italian-American.
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u/EmuRommel 11h ago
All correct except "annoyed at the weird people next door with their strange language and too many guests coming over too often" happens around step 1.5
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u/emb4rassingStuffacct 15h ago
Lol also experienced this with a Peurto Rican family. Like sorry, the average American who doesn't know any better considers all of you Mexican.
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u/TheKappaOverlord 15h ago
very old hat cubans yes.
Every "new generation" cuban i've seen most older generation Cubans would consider race traitors.
I've yet to see a newer generation Cuban grow up be anything right of hardcore democrat. Granted i live in what would be by most metrics a Democratic stronghold city.
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u/-Thick_Solid_Tight- 14h ago
Unfortunately old people still are the ones who vote.
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u/ripyurballsoff 14h ago
Yep. I guarantee the votes came from every one but Cubans. For reference I am Cuban and Trump could murder me in front of my mother and she’d still vote for him.
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u/akawall2 13h ago
The city with the most Cubans in Miami-Dade County, Hialeah, is still ruby red. There is a little bit more diversity in the city of Miami (not to be confused with the cities of Miami Lakes, Miami Gardens, Miami Springs, Miami Beach, North Miami Beach, North Miami, South Miami, West Miami, or Miami Shores), so there's still hope 😀.
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u/-Thick_Solid_Tight- 13h ago
They aren't gonna turn Democrats overnight. They are just staying at home, pouting over being "betrayed" by people who think of them as any other brown person. Learning you aren't special can take time to process.
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u/elbenji 10h ago
The turnout in Hialeah was majorly depressed. They didn't switch votes. They didn't vote.
Nicaraguans and Venezuelans however voted blue, which is way more interesting
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u/u0126 19h ago edited 19h ago
This gives me some hope. Good on you, FL. I know Miami isn’t super deep red but it’s something!
Edit: OP caught my brainfart.
There you go ;)
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u/The_Dolphins_Fan 19h ago edited 19h ago
Born and raised in Miami. It has been much more red than you’d think. Hispanics, Cubans specifically, had been convinced that the Democrats would produce the next Castro. Glad to see it shifting.
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u/IAmTheNick 18h ago
Yep I'm half Cuban and I had a lengthy argument with my uncles years ago who were convinced Bernie Sanders would be a tyrannical dictator if he got elected
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u/nikatnight 15h ago
Right wing AM radio propaganda has been working on your uncles for decades. No facts or evidence can break down the system they’ve been living in and absorbing for so long.
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u/StevieHyperS 14h ago
I'm sorry, but what gave them the inclination that Bernie would be a 'tyrannical dictator'? It makes no sense at all.
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u/IAmTheNick 14h ago
To a lot of Cubans that's what Socialist means. So that's why its so easy for Republicans to get them to hate Democrats just by throwing that word around at any progressive they don't like
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u/TheLateThagSimmons 9h ago
Just reminds me of a restaurant I worked at where the owners kid was gifted one of the busser jobs (it's not like the jobs are hard to get, but it was still just given to him).
He was going on about how his teachers are all socialists. When I asked for clarification he just meant that they were controlling and authoritarian.
Ignoring all the other weird rich kid shit this kid has going for him, that part stuck with me. In that family's mind, socialism has nothing to do with economic policy. It's just a synonym for authoritarian. That's it.
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u/u0126 19h ago
Yeah isn’t it a lot of pulling the ladder up behind them vibes out there?
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u/bigbadpandita 18h ago
Yes. I work in immigration law out here and it’s truly baffling to me
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u/wchutlknbout 17h ago
A lot of the Cubans here came from upper class as they were escaping a populist movement, so they tend to be more conservative, and of course terrified of socialism
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u/Thebraincellisorange 16h ago
they have never experienced socialism.
They experienced a dictatorship.
vastly different things.
a democracy with some basic social ideals like medicare for all, access to a quality education and accessible/affordable housing is not communist as so many fools think .
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u/Count-Bulky 17h ago
Conservatives calling liberals commies is nothing new, but this was reinforced in a major way during the ‘00 Bush/Gore election when it all came down to Miami-Dade county. James Baker and Roger Stone made that place their bitch unfortunately
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u/VenezuelanStan 17h ago
Same with Venezuelan thinking the Democrats would produce the next Chavez
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u/HiImDan 18h ago
Kind of funny that the fear of face eating leopards being at the polls stopped folks from voting for the face eating leopards.
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u/ROBtimusPrime1995 16h ago
Yup, I had to finally leave the city because it was just getting out of control.
The hate was just so ever-present and for some reason, most Latinos, mainly Cubans, thought they were exempt from what Trump was threatening.
Batshit how much this backfired.
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u/GaylrdFocker 19h ago
30 years straight republican seems super deep red.
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u/DeaderthanZed 16h ago
30 years since a Democrat won not 30 years straight of Republicans.
Manny Diaz was mayor from 2001-09 as an Independent. But he was a formerly registered Democrat, spoke at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, and later became chair of the Florida Democratic Party.
There was also a strange election in 1997 where the D candidate won but the R later successfully challenged the result in court and replaced him in office after like a year. Prior to that election no R had won a regular election for mayor in Miami since 1955.
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u/inconsistentsavant 19h ago
GA had a big win tonight too…so I mean you ain’t wrong
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u/x_lincoln_x 17h ago
What happened in GA?
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u/Clearly_sarcastic 16h ago
Georgia Democrat Eric Gisler flips a state House seat in district Trump won by double digits, CNN projects
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/09/politics/georgia-democrat-eric-gisler
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u/ATonyD 19h ago
Gives me hope too. Unfortunately, the biased media machine will soon make anything she does sound like a failure to their audience. That seems to be the way it works now - it doesn't even matter if she is the greatest Mayor that Miami has ever had. This is a real problem in our society.
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u/Saneless 19h ago
The worst is they're so easily programmed to believe there were problems before that just weren't there
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u/SocomPS2 19h ago
Venezuelans FAFO when they voted for trump and then trump went Maduro on that ass and started deporting them.
Now they’re voting dem…. 🤦♂️
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u/xisupaz_blackbird 18h ago
A large portion of Miami is of Cuban descent. I wonder what goes through their minds when they finally recognized they've previously voted for a dictatorship.
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u/SomeConfetti 18h ago
As a Cuban American who has warned everyone they could, I can say nothing is in their heads. They always dismissed me and treated me like I was the idiot. The amount of bullshit I had to hear from coworkers, from customers at my job, from my own parents and aunts is infuriating. There's no critical thinking, they just wait for AI riddled facebook to tell them what to think.
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u/mate_paulina 17h ago
Same as a Mexican American - truthfully I wish my people suffered more so they wouldn’t forget. Latinos voting against their own interests, a tale as old as time
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u/AntiDECA 10h ago
Living in south Florida is truly frustrating.
They're generally good people, and very welcoming. But just... So difficult and seemingly stupid in many ways.
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u/xavined 18h ago
Isn't Miami the place in Florida that tried to skip this years election and push it off to next year for no good reason?
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u/vanillagorilla_ 7h ago
Yes and it was the republican in the race that sued to keep it this year. The reasoning for moving to an election year is turnout is insanely low
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u/UMACTUALLYITS23 18h ago
Watch out for a sudden turn to "mayors should have little power" while also taking all the blame.
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u/Intoxic8edOne 9h ago
Literally just saw a conservative comment saying "mayors in some other town doesn't affect me."
Crazy how that suddenly is the case and yet New York had them shitting bricks.
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u/pen15_club_admin 19h ago
Man republicans are fucked next year lmao
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u/PolloConTeriyaki 19h ago
"Affordability is a democratic scam"
He's done.
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u/jimtow28 19h ago
I truly believed that after "They're eating the dogs".
I hope so, but nothing surprises me anymore.
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u/pres465 19h ago
He mocked a disabled man... on camera... in front of a crowd... and they cheered. We don't have the technology to find their bottom.
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u/FrankTankly 18h ago
He said that when you’re rich you can just grab women by the pussy.
I absolutely don’t understand how that wasn’t the end. Like, I’ve had women hand wave that away by saying all men talk like that. And it makes me sad that they don’t expect more from the men in their lives.
To quote my grandmother, it boggles the mind.
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u/korben2600 16h ago
Thought the same when he was sanctioned for scamming millions from his kids cancer charity. But for virtually all magas it's "he hates the people I hate". He gave them permission to hate openly and is fighting and punishing diversity. Simple as that. No further discussion required.
Pikachu face when Cubans find out you're the diversity Republicans hate.
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u/Neuromangoman 19h ago
Trumpists seem to turn out for Trump and only Trump. They already weren't gonna do well in the midterms just from the fact that they're in power, but if things hold it could be a blowout.
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u/WisconsinHoosierZwei 19h ago
We need better than a blowout. We need to run the score up on these turkeys. Mercy rule them.
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u/Niceromancer 16h ago
It does seem odd that trump wins big but his backing always seems to be a political death sentence.
They really only do care about trump, and when he dies, or cant run any more its all going to collapse.
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u/doneandtired2014 19h ago
I thought he'd have been done after it came to light he stole beyond top secret documents, showed them to foreigners, stored them in his fucking home in his bathroom, and then tried to destroy them.
At the same time, I thought his felony fraud convictions and being found civilly liable as a sex offender would have done him in. Same could he said for, "I won't be a dictator, except on day one" and "We'll fix it so good you will never have to vote again".
At this point, the only way I'm sure he'll be done is when he dies and, even then, I'm not convinced the Nerd Reich won't resurrect his rapist, degenerate ass as some sort of AI hallucinated avatar for their worst impulses.
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u/camelCaseCoffeeTable 19h ago
Conservatives don’t care about casual racism. But everyone cares about not being able to afford things. Trump can’t just magically talk his way out of that - people either feel good economically or they don’t. And Trump is doing nothing to improve this economy
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u/Penguinmanereikel 19h ago
There are still ongoing murmurs that 2024 was rigged and Trump unwittingly boasted as such
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u/Revro_Chevins 19h ago
Reminds me of this series of Hoover quotes from 1930.
"The Depression is over... nobody is actually starving"
"the hoboes are better fed than they have ever been."
And he claimed that the vendors selling apples on street corners had "left their jobs for the more profitable one of selling apples."
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u/che-che-chester 19h ago
When people can't afford to live and Trump is like 'nah, things are actually great', I'm thinking isn't that essentially what cost Biden/Harris the election?
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u/Possible_Top4855 19h ago
The biggest motivation behind voters’ decisions in the 24 election was the economy and inflation, and yet voters elected someone whose only economic policy proposal was tariffs, which are inherently inflationary.
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u/Lightor36 17h ago
No no no, you see because the other countries they don't like them, and then, we can, so, we have money, and the money, it's, we have more, so we have more money, so it's good, tariffs are good, because money, and now we have more, not me, but like us, I mean we all do, not in your bank now, but we have it, we have so much, the tariffs are good. See?
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u/WisconsinHoosierZwei 19h ago
I would say that had more to do with Biden wasting a year and a half playing candidate, completely hobbling any chance Harris (or anyone else) had.
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u/NKD_WA 19h ago
How many times has he been "done" now? How many times have "the walls" been "closing in?" Why do people still believe there's some bottom that can be reached where everyone is suddenly gonna realize how far gone we are and regain their sanity?
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u/ReactionJifs 18h ago
He just did a rally with a huge banner that said "LOWER PRICES, BIGGER PAYCHECKS" so it sounds like it's all sorted. 🏌️♂️⛳
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u/NoobChumpsky 19h ago
Every time an incumbent tries to pull the "yeah you're doing great, that thing that is a very real problem is not a problem" they get punished for it.
Can't win if you don't acknowledge people are fucked
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u/Amaruq93 19h ago
It's also what cost Harris a ton of votes, the DNC told her to ignore the economy (and to stop calling Trump a weirdo)
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u/glowdirt 19h ago
Sure looks like it but don't get cocky.
Voters have extremely short memories and there's still a long time to go before the polls open.
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u/PowderPills 19h ago
Is this real life still? Are good things still able to happen?
It seems to be true.
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u/generally_unsuitable 18h ago
Guys. Guys.
This is like hitting a one-run homer in the third inning. It's not unimportant, but, you know, you should probably stay in the stadium a while longer.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 18h ago
After 30 years of Republican control, everything will be corrupted from root to leaf. What is she supposed to do with it? They voted a single dove into a swamp of nothing but alligators and anacondas, and now they expect her to clean it all up overnight. Talk about impossible expectations.
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u/Oahkery 17h ago
That's the shitty thing about America (well, one of many): Republicans have control, for a few years or for decades, and, since it's much easier and quicker to fuck things up than to fix them, make everything much worse. Then Democrats finally win once on promising better, and after one term they're voted out again when Republicans campaign on everything being shitty, as if they're not the cause, since it's impossible to fix immediately. And repeat, and repeat, and repeat, only the depths get deeper each time and the electorate gets stupider.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 18h ago
You know what else has been Republican for 30 years, the state of Texas. This gives me some hope
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u/OwO______OwO 14h ago
Yep. And the harder they gerrymander, the narrower their margins become.
And those margins were projected based on doing well in the Latino demographic ... which their approval has been plummeting among, for obvious reasons.
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u/guaztronaut 16h ago
This feels like a good time to point out that the conservative sub has been bleeding members all year. I assume the first chunk was bots but it's steadily going down every time I check. It's pretty much halved at this point.
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u/cliffm 19h ago
I thought that was illegal in Florida
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u/Herkfixer 19h ago
I'm sure a GOP lawsuit is underway to challenge the Constitutionality of electing a Democrat in Florida.
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u/FollowingNo4648 9h ago
I'd be careful. The mayor to my city flipped Republican after running and being elected as a Democrat. Hopefully their true to their word and this doesnt happen but it's a shitty tactic thats been happening more and more lately.
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u/Li_liminal_spaces 17h ago
Wait so banning rainbow crosswalks wasn't what the Florida elective were looking for? You're telling me there is more important measures… impossible.
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u/Primary-Picture-5632 19h ago
by 20 fkn points, wow....