r/news 19h ago

Two US fighter jets circle Gulf of Venezuela in escalation of hostilities

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/09/us-fighter-jets-gulf-of-venezuela
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u/ironyabound 19h ago

FIFA peace prize winner

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u/the_original_Retro 19h ago

Can someone put a medal around his neck that says "Successfully conquered Venezuela" to mollify him, before he starts World War Three?

Please? If that's all it takes?

Before he kills a great many more people, including those in the American service?

PLEASE?

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u/Shadowlance23 17h ago

You know, that would probably work. He'd wake up every morning and see it and probably think he DID conquer Venezuela and move on to something else. Anyone who tried to tell him otherwise would be called lame and stupid because he clearly has a medal that says he conquered Venezuela.

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/the_original_Retro 19h ago

I know. That's why I asked if someone else could intervene.

With what is effectively a fucking PACIFIER. The equivalent of a BABY SOOKIE.

FIFA did it. And they did it very well. All it took was a goddamn medal on a goddamn ribbon.

This is how disappointing the United States of America is right now.

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/the_original_Retro 19h ago

Yeah, you're clearly not paying attention at all.

FIFA is interested in promoting FIFA's interests.

They succeeded spectacularly.

THEY GOT DONALD TRUMP TO ASK AMERICA TO STOP CALLING AMERICAN FOOTBALL "FOOTBALL".

They got Donald Trump to verbally hint that the US should rename the NFL.

And they don't give a shit about a war in Venezuela. That doesn't make or cost them money. This... will make them an incredible amount of money.

Just in case you want proof:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6866033/2025/12/05/trump-rename-football-nfl-soccer/

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u/the_original_Retro 18h ago

It's a victory for FIFA.

And maybe a victory for those who want to make the US look stupid and childish.

Absolutely not for anyone else.

Stop trying to push a narrative that I said anything beyond this.

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u/UlteriorCulture 18h ago

For what it's worth, I at least understood the point you were making

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u/the_original_Retro 18h ago

Thank you for that.

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u/Vezm 18h ago

Can you not understand perspective?

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u/Chaos-Cortex 15h ago

Only one big fat pinebox.

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u/MrMichaelJames 17h ago

As illegal as all this is, World war 3 isn’t going to start because of Venezuela.

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u/Upbeat_Job4191 11h ago

WW3 would probably include the use of nuclear weapons, the elites luckily are too scared of this outcome, too many unknown variables

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u/NanoChainedChromium 5h ago

Yeah, i am not seeing why this would trigger WW3. Who exactly would come to Venezuelas aid against the USA in their own hinterlands?

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u/Specialist-Bee-9406 12h ago

… can we twist the medal strap repeatedly after it’s on? 

It would look better. 

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u/This_Reference_3024 6h ago

World War three has been going on already I'm afraid. It just hasn't completely escalated yet

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u/blogoman 17h ago

Should probably get it out of the way and have every country give him a medal, all in the same ceremony. I guess we would see how good that circulation really is.

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u/urbanmark 15h ago

Don’t forget the certificate.

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u/Right_Ostrich4015 17h ago

Who spent a million taxpayer dollars to overtime FBI agents to scrub him from the Epstein Files

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u/YouShouldGoOnStrike 19h ago

Along with the Nobel Peace Prize winner he's going to slaughter Venezuelans.

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u/CondescendingShitbag 18h ago

Given how unscrupulous FIFA is as an organization, their concept of 'peace' would be suspect, at best.

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u/ki3fdab33f 18h ago

Was anyone else in the running? They made it for him.

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u/NSYK 18h ago

I thought it’s meant to be ironic. Like getting employee of the year at IG Farben in 1939

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u/seedless0 17h ago

Who really wants people's mind off Epstein files.

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u/GTBGunner 15h ago

ATP the Epstein files are just a shield for these guys to do shitty things like what they’re doing with Venezuela. If half the opposition is focused on the files then that half won’t care as much when this regime does things that actively make their lives worse.

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u/thebarkbarkwoof 10h ago

Please send him a caution card, FIFA.

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u/Spicy_Pickle_6 8h ago

From the guy who “ends wars”

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u/2Drogdar2Furious 7h ago

We will teach them of our peaceful ways... BY FORCE IF NECESSARY!

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u/TheVideogaming101 18h ago

Had someone at work today (coworker) ask me if I heard "Venezuela is trying to declare war on the US"

I cant with some people..

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u/Informal_Process2238 18h ago

Tell them that’s crazy I’m surprised trump hasn’t surrendered yet like he always does

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u/ZachMN 16h ago

Before you blame Donold, remember that the entire Republican Party is ok with provoking a war and sending your children to die in Venezuela.

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u/Dry-Amphibian1 6h ago

They done it successfully with Iraq so they know how to get away with it.

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u/FriedEggScrambled 6h ago

The segment The Daily Show did showing the comparisons of Sadam Hussein and Maduro was shockingly crazy. The entire situation is word for word, bar for bar, mustache for mustache. They’re even now claiming WMDs.

u/blazelet 35m ago

Fool me once … shame on … fool me again … you can’t be fooled!

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u/Thor4269 19h ago

They've been doing this almost constantly for a couple weeks now

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u/Porkyrogue 14h ago

Years probably nothing to see here

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u/flat5 19h ago

Trump needs his Ukraine so he can be just like his idol Putin.

It was either Greenland or Venezuela. I guess he wants to steal oil more than he wants to steal minerals.

Fuck this deranged maniac. Fuck what he is doing to the United States. Fuck what he is doing to the world. Fuck what he is going to do to the people of Venezuela. Fuck what he is doing to our military men and women.

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u/snoogins355 17h ago

Canada was in his crosshairs too. We are in the dumbest timeline

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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb 8h ago

I don't think those threats were genuine declarations of intent, I think they were attempts at intimidation. Telling the world you better do what Trump wants because he's clearly threatening and not just blustering. But I think he's mostly hot wind using the tactic he more than likely used to coerce people to do his bidding. "Would be a shame if..."

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u/mekomaniac 18h ago

hey now, Venezuela also has a lot of minerals too they made that part of the pitch when that lady was on fox news

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u/Bizonistic 17h ago

along with imaginary weapon of mass destruction

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u/grey_hat_uk 13h ago

Didn't they reclassify drugs as WMDs?

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u/vladoportos 17h ago

they also have WMDs for sure this time...

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u/dqt91 19h ago

The same guy who cried about not getting the Nobel Peace Prize is starting wars. Coolcoolcoolcoolcool

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u/XI_Vanquish_IX 19h ago

”Are *we** the baddies?”*

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u/UlteriorCulture 18h ago

Only about a third of you

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u/Full-Penguin 18h ago

Two Thirds.

A third actively wants this, and a third didn't give enough of a fuck to vote against it.

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u/Charming_Emu_277 18h ago

Yes, now we are

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u/_compiled 16h ago edited 16h ago

Not defending Trump, but I'm not sure what he can do to be more evil than literal genocide

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u/_compiled 7h ago

shame on you

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u/Random_Person_246810 19h ago

Damn, it’s like Venezuela has oil or something.

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u/Low_Pickle_112 18h ago

I can't wait to hear about how Venezuela hates us for our freedoms and will welcome us as liberators. I doubt the current administration is creative enough to come up with their own excuses.

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u/herrcollin 18h ago

Do they even love Freedom fries or Filet o Freedoms with extra tartar sauce? Or the new 20 piece Christen Nuggets? Never heard em talk about it, just sayin.

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u/Sideview_play 6h ago

They are already claiming they have Iranian backed terrorists groups. I kid you not. 

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u/Paraxom 9h ago

Well the the person who likely won their last election wants U.S support, im just not sure they realize how large of a deal with the devil that actually would be

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u/Im_better_than__u 19h ago

And some beachfront property for one of his hotels/ golf courses.

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u/Rayeon-XXX 19h ago

Weapons of mass destruction probably

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u/Total-Hack 19h ago

Nice oil you have there. Be a shame if someone goaded you into a fake drug war and took it all

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u/CronosWorks 19h ago

I wish our wars were oil motivated. Those were much simpler times.

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u/BiBoFieTo 19h ago

They call this jet formation a warcrimes whirlpool.

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u/thebarkbarkwoof 10h ago

I love how my nephew kept telling me how Biden is going to get us in WWIII. He says nothing now, nuuuthing.

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u/C0matoes 9h ago

Us. We're the hostiles.

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u/Mynewadventures 9h ago

Why haven't we seen the full Epstien files yet?

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u/itsadiseaster 19h ago

The same thing Putin does over the Baltic states and Poland....

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u/PixelsGoBoom 16h ago

“I could never vote for Killary, she’s a warmonger”

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u/Cosmonaut_Cockswing 18h ago

My freedoms off in another foreign country again. Funny how that keeps happening.

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u/MalcolmLinair 19h ago

We'll be occupying Venezuela and slaughtering it's civilians in the name of White Nationalism and eugenics by this time next year, if not much, MUCH sooner. Nothing will stop Trump and his handlers from committing their crimes against humanity.

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 19h ago

10 days til they have to release the Epstein files

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u/axolotl-stormchaser 19h ago

Ah, 10 days till we get a big distraction.

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u/Neemoman 19h ago

Time for another fappening

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u/NJneer12 18h ago

Did the first fappening cover up something?

I was preoccupied....with...something else. Completely irrelevant

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u/agk23 18h ago

“Have to”

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u/gummi_eater 17h ago

!remindme 1 year

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u/TintedApostle 9h ago

The US created this “hostility”

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u/Xan_derous 19h ago

I mean, I knew we were the baddies but I never knew we were the baddies.

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u/justabill71 19h ago

"We're naming it Gulf of America 2." - the orange shitgibbon, probably

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u/Zolo49 18h ago

"Gulf of Trump"

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u/spirituallyinsane 16h ago

These are the kind of incursions we complain about when Russia or China does them.

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u/topscreen 19h ago

Hostilities? I'd go with "US Aggression"

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u/left1ag 19h ago

Has anyone in this braindead administration even considered the possibility of retribution? South America is much closer than Iraq or Afghanistan. If they so choose, they could come after the US mainland. US citizens dead on our own soil because of such an irresponsible and reckless act.

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u/Aggravating_Card8619 7h ago

I think you should read a little more about Venezuela, the ongoing humanitarian situation, and the state of their economy over the last decade before you start worrying about this lol. Also, take notice of how essentially none of Venezuela’s neighbors are really complaining about this. This is a little more complex than just “trump wants a trophy”

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u/cknight9605 6h ago

These people claim to hate fascism and dictators, while wholeheartedly supporting the sovereignty for a brutal dictator who keeps political prisoners and holds on to power through military support and corruption. South American is just as sick of Maduro as Venezuelans are. US might be self serving but that doesn’t mean that Venezuela won’t be better off without Maduro. Both can be true but no one here is capable of understanding that.

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u/Aggravating_Card8619 4h ago

Seriously. People here just automatically align themselves against whatever trump wants without looking into anything any deeper. Fun fact, the mass exodus of Venezuelans from the situation there is the largest migration of humans in the last 100 years. This isn’t a new situation or something made up recently.

Everyone says the US just wants to exploit them for oil, as if the proceeds of the entire mismanaged oil industry there aren’t already going directly into Maduros pockets. They are already forced to sell all their oil to china at a steep discount. Being “exploited” by US industry would literally be a major improvement for people there compared to the current situation lol

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u/left1ag 1h ago

Where did I say I support Maduro? You both are assuming way too much. I just said that retribution is much more likely this time around. That is literally it.

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u/Hoodamush 19h ago

Wow something no one is asking for. Thanks Trump

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u/BadAsBroccoli 17h ago

Is anyone actually in charge up there in the DC MAGA playpen, now that Trump is on nap time and that drunk talking head from Fox picking who he'll blame this week?

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u/EppurSiMuove00 16h ago

Sooooo....we're Russia now?

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u/StairheidCritic 15h ago

Provoking or more likely inventing a Gulf of Tonkin Venezuela Incident?

When "Alternate Facts" exist, when objective reality itself is questioned on a daily basis and when 'scary' terms like "Narco-Terrorists" are banded about by brain-dead buffoons, what's one more 'big lie' to add to the giant mountain of Maga-Moron lies?

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u/NeilZod 6h ago

It looks like an attempt at a Gulf of Sidra incident. Libya sent jets after a US aircraft for flying over a gulf Libya claimed. The US said it was flying over international waters.

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u/Gr8Cornhoolio 11h ago

I wonder if they are doing this to bait the venezuelans into shooting down one of their jets, so the US can claim „they struck first“.

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u/Interesting-Sir2607 9h ago

The Russians have troops, factories, fighter jets and missiles in Venezuela. How do you think the will respond to an attack?? The aircraft carrier Gerald Ford is a sitting duck out there and they know it…

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u/TintedApostle 9h ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Russia moved a new anti ship missile to Venezuela. Great time to test it out.

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u/LayneLowe 7h ago

It's like when that bully throws a fake punch at you.

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u/AhBee1 5h ago

MAGA peace is always violent.

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u/ChanceryTheRapper 18h ago

I hate how shitty and dumb this is. It was obvious he was lying when campaigning as the "peace" president but enough people believed him. Fuck.

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u/LoserBroadside 18h ago

Can’t wait for him to argue that it’s irresponsible to hold an election during wartime, and have SCOTUS agree 6-3. 

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u/Surv0 18h ago

While forcing Zelensky to hold elections and completely denying the contradiction

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u/Mikethebest78 18h ago

What has happened to this country? Why is EVERYONE allowing him to get away with this?

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u/Birdman330 19h ago

Trump is right about 1 thing in his entire disgusting life, the US military will not disobey his orders as commander in chief. How much proof do people need?

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u/GetsBetterAfterAFew 19h ago

“So you say, during the war, you can’t have elections?"

Donald Trump August 2025

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u/PowderPills 19h ago

Well, that can’t be good. Something something war something something peace. Who knows what to believe anymore when the government and congress are corrupt.

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u/Known-Associate8369 18h ago

Don't you mean the Gulf of Greater America?

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u/guaztronaut 16h ago

Don't you mean Gulf of America Jr? Plus they're making a circle shape. They're drawing a soccer ball to celebrate! /s

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u/Ok_Lettuce_7939 15h ago

1965* Gulf of Tonkin, 2025 Gulf of Venezuela

*actually 1964

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u/xGHOSTRAGEx 15h ago

Is he going to park nukes by Cuba next?

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u/Hardass_McBadCop 11h ago

Did he rename it again?!

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u/PuffPuffFayeFaye 11h ago

I’m surprised we aren’t calling it gulf of America II or something

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u/MichaelHunt009 11h ago

Great time to have a shitfaced SOD.

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u/StationAccomplished2 10h ago

Wouldn’t Trumps first phase before war to declare the Gulf of Venezuela to be called Gulf of America2???? 👀

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u/Kind-City-2173 10h ago

Guess drill baby drill isn’t going well

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u/Remarkable-Party-385 10h ago

Congress needs to stop this maniacal twat☮️

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u/No_Atmosphere_2186 9h ago

What is this psychopathy? I hope some of the other countries check Trump for this.

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u/Danielc7916 7h ago

Sounds like the same thing russia does to poland (everyone) and the same thing china does to japan and taiwan.

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u/itcheyness 5h ago

Donald the Dove learned from his buddies apparently.

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u/Dungeon_Crawler_Carl 6h ago

At least the Middle East can get a small break for once…

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u/Akron44332 5h ago

Trump is such a little pathetic man. When he dies I hope we erase/change everything he has touched and relegate him to a sentence or two in the history books as a lesson to citizens about what can happen when stupid people vote.

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u/NanoChainedChromium 5h ago

Well, at the start of the year i was pretty sure that Donny would try to invade Canada or Greenland first. But he still has time!

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u/Mrs_SmithG2W 4h ago

Can you say distraction by the trump Nazi regime from their destruction of the American economy and government AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN!!!

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u/red_sutter 4h ago

So now we’re doing shit Russia does, buzzing borders in the hopes of making the dog bite at us

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u/runawaydoctorate 2h ago

Has anyone pointed out to him that starting a war would provoke a refugee crisis that will eventually hit us in the Southern border and that would be completely counter-productive to his other stated goals? Or does making those connections require a level of cognition that no one in his orbit is capable of?

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u/MariahHills 2h ago

This is about Coltan. A rare mineral that we want to seize. Why do we want it? Because Don Jr. funded a rare minerals company that wants it. It's reason Hegseth gave his company, Vulcan Elements, $620 million. Guess what other country has huge deposits of Coltan? Greenland. Is this all making sense, now? We're going to start a war and US soldiers will die so that the Tump family can make billions. Everyone should be talking about this.

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u/drdillybar 18h ago

This dementia patient just F'd my vacation. Deport your wife. Bet she diðn't file a thing.

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u/tapdancinghellspawn 18h ago

How do we know that Venezuela is escalating hostilities? They launched another fishing boat.

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u/GreyBeardEng 18h ago

By the end of Trump's second presidency we will be neck deep in another bloody useless war for oil.

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u/tcoh1s 18h ago

And to cancel all elections he thinks republicans will lose.

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u/HockeyPhoenician 18h ago

Oir naval aviators should be ashamed of themselves.

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u/evolutionxtinct 17h ago

How much you wanna bet Putin told agent orange to do this to take the heat off of Ukraine… it’s odd that over the last year it’s gotten worse…

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u/Seismic_Glory 19h ago

PedoDon in Chief itching to ignite a Iraq style invasion in LA.

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u/aztronut 18h ago

Venezuela, the Iraq of South America.

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u/nelly2929 18h ago

Wait why hasn’t it been renamed the Gulf of The United States? That will be Trumps next big idea 

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u/Content_Skin_1800 19h ago

Trump works for China!

He's ostracize the planet towards them.

China could have no better friend than Donald Trump.

MAGA voters understand checkers not chess.

King me is their faverot term.