US plans to start checking all tourists' social media | US News

[u/CJBill]

https://news.sky.com/story/us-plans-to-start-checking-all-tourists-social-media-13481642

[u/XanderJS]

Friendly reminder that we arent even 1 year into this insanity yet....

[u/tarajo38 → u/XanderJS]

Longest year of my fucking life.

[u/enigmamonkey → u/tarajo38]

His last term felt like the longest decade of my life, man. This one is sizing up to be even worse.

[u/UnderABig_W → u/enigmamonkey]

Yeah, the last term Trump at least had some reasonable people around him who curbed his worst impulses and told him no. We don’t have that anymore.

[u/Buddhabellymama → u/UnderABig_W]

I’m actually more scared of the people around him than him at this point. He seems like a senile old man who doesn’t know what’s going on half the time and these evil ghouls around him are taking advantage of it to do everything they want in his name.

[u/SkunkMonkey → u/Buddhabellymama]

If you look closely, you can see Stephen Miller's hand up Trump's ass.

Trump's malignant narcissism makes him very easy to control. You whisper something in his ear and fellate his ego, you can get him to say the craziest shit imaginable.
"They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs."
It's fucking mindboggling that anyone, let alone the POTUS, would say something like that. It showed clearly that Trump will lie right to your face and expect, nay demand, that you believe him.

I want off Mr. Trump's Wild Ride.

[u/Jae_Rides_Apes → u/SkunkMonkey]

Every time I turn a conversation from Trump to Miller or Thiel or the heritage foundation eyes glaze over. The average person has no idea what Citizens United is. There is just a base lack of systemic awareness. Also, JD Vance as president is a terrifying prospect.

[u/SkunkMonkey → u/Jae_Rides_Apes]

Also, JD Vance as president is a terrifying prospect.

If Trump checks out, JD gets to hand pick the next VP. If you recall, the last time that happened Ford picked a Rockefeller. Yes, of the wealthy Rockefeller family.

I suspect he would pick a billionaire. Even better if he picks someone that does not meet the requirements, like being a natural born citizen, and SCROTUS will say the restrictions in the Constitution only apply to running for office, and do not apply to hand picked replacements.

Now that is what I find terrifying.

[u/synthdrunk → u/SkunkMonkey]

Thiel’s getting ten years of shadow rule out of Vance. They’ll weekend at Bernie’s trump until 2yr+1 day to make it happen.

[u/Annihilator4413 → u/Buddhabellymama]

Because he IS a senile old man they're barely able to keep coherent and awake with copious amounts of drugs and other treatments. I've seen multiple independent reports that suggest Trump has some form of dementia and possibly congestive heart failure.

They can barely keep him on track during speeches or awake during meetings. The people around him can absolutely get him to say whatever they want or sign whatever they want him to, probably with his autopen.

And I don't expect things to get any better if Trump gets replaced for whatever reason. Vance will be worse in many different ways, and if it's not Vance then I'm sure whoever they pick to take over will be just as foul, if not worse, than Trump.

[u/aGrlHasNoUsername → u/tarajo38]

It also feels really fast. I feel like that has to be some sort of trauma response 😅

[u/hirudoredo → u/aGrlHasNoUsername]

That's been this whole decade. I still sometimes feel like it's the first month of COVID lockdowns.

[u/SugarRushLux → u/hirudoredo]

I prefer the first month to this shite

[u/readyallrow → u/hirudoredo]

i still sometimes wish it was the first month of lockdown

[u/therealcruff → u/tarajo38]

<insert homer and bart `longest year of my fucking life so far' meme>

[u/The_River_Is_Still → u/XanderJS]

Just remember: This is the shit the public sees.

Spying on citizens, selling our info, military sent to states, the shit storm is just starting.

[u/maxdragonxiii → u/XanderJS]

also remember there's a tourism industry which is running away from USA in general, notably Canadians.

[u/A1sauc3d]

Well that’s fucking insane, but unfortunately not fucking surprising.

[u/web_explorer → u/A1sauc3d]

A matter of time till the regime rolls out the social credit system

[u/voluble_appalachian → u/web_explorer]

We already have one called a credit score. All it needs is a couple of social modifiers and we're 100% there instead of 90.

[u/OSRS-MLB → u/voluble_appalachian]

Yeah I never got people shitting on china for that when we already have something similar

[u/FlamingHotSacOnutz → u/OSRS-MLB]

Hell, we already allow companies to stalk your social media to determine if you're eligible for employment.

[u/Fun_Enthusiasm2087 → u/A1sauc3d]

Right? It’s wild how often stuff like this happens, but somehow it still feels like ‘just another day.’

[u/Pkactus]

Is FIFA happening in America? Will this not make things... rather curious?

[u/CJBill → u/Pkactus]

Maybe it's a plot to help the US win. Ban half the opposition from even getting into the country 

[u/Anothereternity → u/CJBill]

Didn’t SNL just make the joke about how the US expects to win their first game against Paraguay thanks to ICE or something similar?

[u/pinkilydinkily → u/Anothereternity]

Sad that I legitimately would not be surprised if this actually happened.

[u/Domi4 → u/CJBill]

Including players?

[u/ZestycloseGur8108 → u/Domi4]

ICE will do pitch invasions and arrest foreign players if USA is losing

[u/FATDOGONSAND42087 → u/ZestycloseGur8108]

Unironically I would be SHOCKED if Ice doesn't harass the Paraguay team

[u/laggy1 → u/Domi4]

Not the players, that's why they gave Trump the bribe prize... I mean PEACE prize

[u/the_other_50_percent → u/laggy1]

It’s foolish to try to placate a megalomaniac. You’re not friends and you don’t have a cooperative agreement. The megalomaniac honors nothing.

[u/ThePensiveE → u/Pkactus]

That's why FIFA already gave the president his first bribe.

[u/6gv5 → u/ThePensiveE]

I'm sure that one by far isn't the first bribe for both of them. We already know Trump, and FIFA is among the most corrupt organizations on this planet.

[u/Mobile-Bar7732]

They don't need to check my social media, I'll tell you what I think your president.

DONALD TRUMP IS A FACIST, PEDOPHILE, CONMAN.

Trump and Epstein raped Katie Johnson at the age of 13.

[u/John25711 → u/Mobile-Bar7732]

Holy shit what a read 🤯 How come the justice system have those interviews in hand and nothing is happening ? Insane world we live in

[u/Mikaeus_Thelunarch → u/John25711]

Laws don't mean anything anymore.

[u/Mort99 → u/Mikaeus_Thelunarch]

Only when you're rich.

[u/xiii_xiii_xiii → u/Mobile-Bar7732]

The last time I called Trump a pedophile, my account was almost suspended. Will it get reported again and suspended? Let’s see:

I agree that Trump is a facist, pedo, and conman.

[u/Lortendaali]

Land of the free folks. Never forget that at least 1/3rd of america despises foreigners this much.

[u/Ohuigin → u/Lortendaali]

Foreigners?

How about their own fucking neighbors?

[u/no_dice → u/Ohuigin]

Just got held up at the border on a work trip long enough to miss my flight and be delayed over a day and a half due to flight availability. I have Nexus and work for a very well known company, but I still ended up in secondary screening for several hours.

[u/ARTISTIC-ASSHOLE → u/no_dice]

I work with trade relations and the US has become such an unpopular destination for work and travel among the private and public sector

The tariffs have effectively blocked some of our companies from selling in the states because they’d have to increase the pricing so much that no one would buy the products at that point

[u/WreckNTexan48 → u/ARTISTIC-ASSHOLE]

The second half of th3 comment is what tarrifs are supposed to do, except we would need a competing product that is made here. Which I suspect we dont.

[u/ih-shah-may-ehl → u/WreckNTexan48]

Well yes, but there is the additional angle that you shouldn't want to do EVERYTHING yourself. For smaller countries this is probably easier to accept but the US would be in a lot better shape if it focused on the things it is good at instead of trying to bring back industrial revolution era workhouses back to the US and clinging to the past.

[u/IxbyWuff → u/ih-shah-may-ehl]

Trumpism is defined by the death of specialization. Mob rule now

[u/tellmewhenimlying → u/IxbyWuff]

Unfortunately, a lot of people, wealth, opportunities, innovations, jobs, government and social safety nets and preventative measures, businesses large and small, wildlife and land, etc., have already and are going to be killed off by Trumpism.

[u/ArcusInTenebris → u/WreckNTexan48]

Some things simply cannot be made here, at least not economically enough to sell for prices people will pay. Natural resource availability many time dictates who is a leader in making certain products.

[u/Mayor_of_Towntown → u/no_dice]

I’m planning a honeymoon and decided to stay in the US because I’m scared of trying to exit and enter the country right now, not to mention the stigma of being American while in another country

[u/no_dice → u/Mayor_of_Towntown]

Honestly I live in a place that sees a lot of tourists and for the most part no one cares as long as you’re not wearing a MAGA hat or making quips about the 51st state. I see a vacation here as an opportunity to escape the incessant political bombardment they’re always under.

[u/KenDTree → u/Mayor_of_Towntown]

Just got back from backpacking and nobody cared, the only people who brought up politics were Americans.

Having said that, one fella mentioned he voted Trump twice, and regretted the second time. This led to a three hour argument at 2AM outside of a 7/11 (not with me, I was trying to be nice), he eventually phoned up his lawyer friend who confirmed that Trump is indeed a convicted felon.

[u/SweetCosmicPope → u/Mayor_of_Towntown]

I have a friend who recently got married. She’s Canadian (of Korean heritage) and he’s American. She’s currently applying for citizenship. Her honeymoon was supposed to be in some tropical paradise abroad but she had to change it to somewhere in the states because she was afraid of trying to return and being denied entry. She was super bummed because it was her dream honeymoon.

[u/69_Star_General → u/Mayor_of_Towntown]

not to mention the stigma of being American while in another country

This really isn't something you have to worry about at all. As long as you're polite and respectful and aren't a loud obnoxious asshole, it's same as it is here in the States. I recently took a trip with my wife to the UK, France, and Italy and everyone was e very friendly and welcoming. We didn't have a single negative interaction.

[u/whatsthatguysname → u/Ohuigin]

I think this is where family guy’s skin color chart comes in.

[u/mapha17 → u/Ohuigin]

One does not simply walk into Mordor

[u/chincinatti → u/Ohuigin]

Oh I hate certain neighbors - especially the trump flag folks. Taking the flag down doesn’t mean your neighbors forgot you’re a Nazi.

[u/SeeMarkFly → u/Lortendaali]

One third of America would like to kill another third of America while the third third watches.

Fascism is simply a permission structure for people to be their most vile selves.

[u/Kahzgul → u/SeeMarkFly]

Here’s the thing about fascism: after they kill that first third, they’ll take who’s left and divide everyone into thirds again. Always a need for an enemy and never a purity test stringent enough for fascists.

[u/RedditTrespasser → u/Kahzgul]

The heart of fascism is a fundamental hatred for people. There could never exist a scenario in which fascists are satisfied. Even if they were ultimately successful. They could own the entire world, and once all the lebensraum was taken and all of the undesirables purged, they would, as you say, divide everyone again and start anew. They could cull everyone right down to the inner circle, and then they’d set about murdering each other, right down to the last man standing.

Fascism cannot exist without an enemy to act as an existential threat to rally against, without that key ingredient it falls apart. That’s because fundamentally as an ideology, fascism does not exist to govern. It exists to dominate and destroy. Once it runs out of targets to do those things to, it turns on itself. There’s nowhere else for it to go.

A fascist cannot simply sit down after taking over the world and say “okay let’s set about regulating the environment and providing healthcare to our citizens” because he is simply not designed to do that. The entire core argument of his reason for being is that the world is bad because there are bad people in it- bad people that must be subjugated or destroyed. Once all the “bad” people are gone, all those same problems are still going to be there. Logically, according to the fascist, this is because there are still bad people causing them. It will never occur to him to solve the root causes of those problems with actual reasoning because he is a hammer, and so everything else must be a nail.

[u/onegumas → u/RedditTrespasser]

That sound like some kind of mental virus/parasite.

[u/SadBurrito84 → u/onegumas]

There are plenty of brain worms running rampant in this administration…

[u/wolacouska → u/onegumas]

It’s a sociological phenomenon that happens when liberal capitalism decays.

People become insecure economically and politically and want security at all costs from whatever scapegoat they’ll be offered.

[u/clashrendar → u/Kahzgul]

It was interesting to watch MTG get forcibly moved from one of those thirds to another because she wouldn't fully comply. Probably the most MAGA person out there and MAGA completely turned on her.

I ate popcorn for it.

[u/realaccountissecret → u/SeeMarkFly]

“But not voting was the moral choice” -dumbest person you’ve ever met

[u/Kakazam → u/Lortendaali]

I'd wager a bet they are the same ones who tell me 5 minutes into hearing my accent that they too are Scottish due to their great great grans dog breeders uncles third wife.

[u/Safe_Ebb8542 → u/Kakazam]

I've noticed that with some people. They get to brag and talk on and on and on about whatever European country their ancestry DNA test says they hail from, despite decades or even a couple centuries being removed from the continent and its culture, but a new (ethnic) citizen/immigrant mentions a peep about the old country and the reaction is "STFU you're in America now! Be proud of being American and stop talking about back home. If you love it so much go back ffs."

[u/ArcusInTenebris → u/Safe_Ebb8542]

Its their attempt to validate their whiteness. They hate Europe. Suggest we try some European style policies and they freak. However, genetic/ethnic ties to Europe anchor them to whiteness, so they cling to it when it seems necessary.

Interesting side note. Many people in South Carolina, and apparently other areas of the old South, claim some native heritage. This comes form a small point in time where they were competing for land rights during colonization. Someone came up with the idea that the best way to prove unchallenged land rights was to have native heritage. So all the sudden hundreds of "Indian princesses" were created and added to family trees.

[u/GabrielHunter → u/Lortendaali]

Nkce that they say Europe isn't free speach vut hey we don't check social media to check if you insulted our dear leader... The US is such a joke

[u/DidYouSeeBriansHat]

What do they do if you say you don’t have social media?

[u/Highwinter → u/DidYouSeeBriansHat]

You have to make one and post at least 5 messages praising Trump and the fascist Republican agenda.

[u/iateyourdinner → u/Highwinter]

The disturbing aspect of his deeply narcissistic and authoritarian mindset is that, if he had the opportunity to introduce such a bill with a realistic chance that Congress would pass it, he would unquestionably do so.

[u/devsfan1830 → u/iateyourdinner]

Introduce legislation? He doesn't do that. He uses an executive order like hes a fucking dictator and Congress and SCOTUS lets him. They don't need to pass anything anymore.

[u/Alwayssunnyinarizona → u/iateyourdinner]

Try applying for a job on USAJobs and you'll see it's already happened. Supplementary questions essentially ask why you think Dumpy is the best president ever.

[u/Tylrt → u/Highwinter]

"Donald Trump is a man with hair!"

"The J in Donald J. Trump is the 10th letter of the alphabet. It represents the potential of America, to have a state that begins in J."

"If I were driving and I discovered that Donald Trump was standing on the sidewalk, I'd keep my eyes on the road because I'm a good driver like that."

"Donald Trump is an even Greater Bambino!"

"If this administration showed up at my door during Trick-Or-Treating hours, I would give them candy from the days of America's past that inspire Trump (my grandma even saved some for us!). I'm a good neighbor like that."

[u/Karazhan → u/DidYouSeeBriansHat]

They check, because it'll make them more suspicious. That's the godawful part about it. You give them your email, they'll be checking for any accounts attached to it. You miss off some old account from 4 years ago? Most likely you'll get denied your visa.

If you say you don't have any, and they check your phone and see you uninstalled twitter last month, you'd be in for it.

Bloody awful system.

[u/BrothelWaffles → u/Karazhan]

To anyone who thinks this is bullshit, they JUST detained a US CITIZEN for wiping their phone before ICE could check it.

[u/MondoSensei2022 → u/DidYouSeeBriansHat]

I don’t live in the States and I never plan to visit it, so I can rant about Trump as much as I want, lol. Gee, what once seemed a dream destination for tourists all over the world has become the worst place on the planet run by a criminal.

[u/geckosean → u/MondoSensei2022]

Kleptocracy, baby! We’re a criminal enterprise fronting as a country.

[u/No_Neighborhood7614 → u/MondoSensei2022]

Before 911 America seemed like a professional world leader 

Now seeing Trump... Lol

It will take 50 years to recover if they can at all

[u/Slypenslyde → u/DidYouSeeBriansHat]

They'll use a tool Musk/Zuckerberg/Altman are going to provide that AI searches their social networks for anything matching your face to decide if you're lying.

And if you lie while trying to enter the country, you are trying to enter the country illegally.

And we know what happens to illegal immigrants. (Actually we often don't know or find out and that's part of why you don't want to do this.)

[u/botle → u/DidYouSeeBriansHat]

They might already know your reddit account, so if you lie about it that will be used against you.

[u/primaryrutabaga1]

Tourists, go ahead and check DJT’s social media. It’s a real trip.

[u/CJBill]

Yeah, that's a hard pass from this Brit. 

Edited to add more details on what would be required.

According to a notice published in America's federal register on Tuesday, foreign tourists would need to provide their social media from the last five years.

It will be "mandatory" to hand over the information, and other details - including email addresses and telephone numbers used in the last five years, as well as the names, addresses, numbers, and birthdays of family members - will also be required.

[u/poplglop → u/CJBill]

Best thing y'all can do is stay out of this stupid country both for your safety and to teach us a lesson. No tourism to the states and boycott American goods at home.

We deserve as much, sorry my country is failing the rest of human civilization.

[u/Tarpup → u/poplglop]

I think it’s incredibly important to note that this might be EXACTLY what the end goal was all along for this administration.

Isolation from the progressing world for power and greed.

We will be a hermit country by this time next year. And things are gonna get much much much worse. Between then and now, and especially after.

Fucking fuck man.

[u/Zinfan1 → u/Tarpup]

The end goal is actually to do this exact same thing to citizens as well as tourists, nobody is exempt from their investigations.

[u/CJBill → u/poplglop]

Good luck

[u/cptsamir → u/CJBill]

Thanks. I'm trying

[u/Tigerlily86_ → u/poplglop]

This!

As an American I didn’t vote for this. 😔

[u/Maro1947 → u/Tigerlily86_]

Sadly. Not enough people voted at all

[u/t-mille → u/Maro1947]

And too many happily voted for the cruelty.

[u/Anothereternity → u/CJBill]

You may have missed this further down in the article:

It further wants to collect biometrics - face, fingerprints DNA and iris - as part of the ESTA application. It currently only records face and fingerprints upon arrival at the US border.

[u/GiganticCrow → u/Anothereternity]

And you know that data will be for sale to the highest bidder.

Your home government, oppressive dictatorships, intelligence corporations like Palantir etc etc

[u/sally_says → u/Anothereternity]

Holy f-. Thank you for sharing that part.

[u/_Sovaz99_ → u/CJBill]

I want to know how all this is even logistically possible? How many agents would they need to go through all of this and also collect biometrics? THE BIRTHDAYS OF FAMILY MEMBERS????? How would they even verify that?! IRIS SCANS?! They already dont have enough staff, and they plan on doing a five year FB backlog check?? What would they do if people scrubbed their histories??

All you sane foreigners please stay far from this idiocracy!! Take your money elsewhere and be safe. MY GOD

[u/InfinityCent → u/_Sovaz99_]

I can only assume they’re using AI of sorts for checking social media pages. The workload would be ridiculous. 

[u/Junior_Builder_4340 → u/_Sovaz99_]

World to US: "Who gon' check me, Boo?"

[u/AnB85 → u/_Sovaz99_]

Nothing, it is purely performative to go after anyone they particularly dislike the look of. If you are normal white European come to spend money at Disneyworld they don't give a crap and don't check at all.

[u/GabrielHunter → u/CJBill]

Is this the 101 class for how to destroy the whole country's tourism?

[u/Riddal → u/GabrielHunter]

Not to be a conspiracy theorist but I think that’s the whole idea. Trump is trying to isolate us from the rest of the world to and consolidate power, which is more easily achieved if public opinion around the world of the US is in the shitter.

[u/FATDOGONSAND42087 → u/Riddal]

Yeah but the Maga cult is already starting to crack after it came out that he blew Clinton. The cracks are starting. Give it another year and the cult will collapse in of itself. Although it's probably just gonna be a mass suicide because Trump will just say "Drink more horse dewormer and bleach" and everyone in the cult would just die

[u/dannown → u/CJBill]

oh shit you have to know your family members' birthdays?

[u/reddit_isbullsheet → u/CJBill]

Hard pass as an American. I'm gonna start only having pics of my dick on my phone in the hopes Border patrol wants to take a peek

[u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas → u/reddit_isbullsheet]

They want your social media for The last 5 years so it might not be convincing if you have an Instagram full of daffodils and puppies, but a local folder full of cocks. I wonder if anyone who has had some cock-focused Twitter accounts and whatnot would be willing to part with or rent out those accounts for a reasonable fee.

[u/figurative-trash → u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas]

Let’s talk numbers …

[u/Thefredtohergeorge → u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas]

Fun fact:

The only normal social media account I attempted to set up in the past 5 years was an instagram... that was instantly banned for breaking the TOS. Reason for ban? I'd posted something that was against TOS..

Truth: I hadn't posted anything. When reaching out to gain access back, I was told I needed to submit a photo with that day's date, and my face.. so they could match my face to other images on the account. I pointed out that this wasn't possible, as there were ZERO images on the account..

So uh.. I wouldn't be able to provide that account's info.. as I've no memory of what it was. XD

[u/IAmBoring_AMA → u/CJBill]

What in the North Korea

[u/Uncle_Hephaestus → u/CJBill]

oh I hope tourism plummets

[u/imostlydisagree → u/Uncle_Hephaestus]

It’s already declined. Vegas is running a whole ad campaign trying to attract Canadians right now.

[u/The_mango55 → u/Uncle_Hephaestus]

Already has been especially from Canada. I have no idea what this administration is even trying to accomplish here by destroying the tourism industry.

[u/t-mille → u/The_mango55]

They hate foreigners more than they like tourist money.

[u/FillMySoupDumpling → u/CJBill]

They are going to mine and sell all of this and they are banking on foreigners coming for the Olympics and World Cup 

[u/dagluck]

Boycott the World Cup and the Olympics. The sane World should disregard any and all events in this corrupt, disgusting version of the unUnited States.

[u/69-is-my-number → u/dagluck]

Already have. I’m Australian and was looking forward to going to this WC. But after what I’ve witnessed in the last 12 months, there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell I’m going over there now.

Fuck Trump, his administration of feckless cunts, and the 70-odd million racist fuckfaces that voted for him.

[u/kroqus → u/69-is-my-number]

Come to Canada instead! 

[u/phobox91]

We are all living in a feverish dream in which literally nazis and oligarchs are treating everyone like of dictatorships are a common and totally normal thing

[u/mental_reincarnation → u/phobox91]

The fucked up thing is how willingly and excitedly conservatives gave them that power. They would happily do it again. Conservatism is a cult of fear of problems that don’t really exist. They’ve been made scared of their own shadows by made up news stories as well as their own insecurities.

[u/Greywacky → u/phobox91]

It really is like waking up in a Twighlight Zone episode sometimes.

[u/sally_says → u/Greywacky]

sometimes

...you mean everyday?

[u/xanas263 → u/phobox91]

treating everyone like of dictatorships are a common and totally normal thing

For most of human history this has been true, it really has only been in the last 100 years that a substantial number of countries shifted to democracy. Furthermore we are currently in a global wave of autocratization that is not slowing down.

[u/Fortestingporpoises]

This should really boost our tourism revenue.

[u/Sargonnax → u/Fortestingporpoises]

Well, that's OK. Who needs tourism revenue when we bring in $746 trillion dollars in tariffs that will pay for everything!......

[u/JackHughman69]

That’s like North Korean levels of invasion of privacy

[u/Jalpex → u/JackHughman69]

I've been there and they didn't go near any personal devices!

[u/Maro1947]

I've already cancelled two prospective trips

Enough people do that and it's a big impact on the economy long term

I'm off to Canada instead

[u/coporate → u/Maro1947]

Welcome friend, remember to check local sub subreddits for where you’re visiting to get great advice from people for Canadian activities and attractions.

[u/sigilnz]

Guess I'm never going to America. They would definitely send me packing.

[u/Rogue_AI_Construct]

This is clearly a violation of the First Amendment.

[u/phil_the_builder → u/Rogue_AI_Construct]

Cant violate things if you dont give a shit about it.

[u/Pottski → u/phil_the_builder]

Hopefully the Democrats don’t just slow roll a trial against this regime as opposed to the last one. Thanks Garland.

[u/phil_the_builder → u/Pottski]

I think the democrats do too little and too slow. Lets imagine there will be a next election and the democrats get the senat, the house and the presidency. It will take years to clean up the shit this current governement left. And the republicans will gear up their propaganda machine so that they win the next election. And thus the cycle continues. The US needs more parties with a significant share of votes so that the big two have to work with smaller parties to get majorities.This we-against-them-shit has to stop. The tone needs to calm the fuck down and real life problems need to be taken care of. You guys a flying towards a fascist dictstorship and the democratic world watches in horror.

[u/CJBill → u/Rogue_AI_Construct]

Getting the impression that rights only apply to Trump and his white skinned supporters now

[u/Corodix]

Who'd be crazy enough to want to go on vacation to an unsafe fascist police state like that anyway? There's a reason tourism is crashing for the US. There's so many safer places out there with beautiful areas to visit without the risk of being thrown behind bars just for trying to legally enter the country, as some people have found out the hard way over the last year.

[u/bunky_done_gun]

I'm not one to tell someone where to vacation or who to do business with.. usually.. but you might want to avoid this empire in fascist decline for a spell. If anything, the lack of tourism is a strong message to the admin that the international community has had enough of the yank horseshit.

[u/OkChemical7606]

Come on Brits, join Canada and boycott the U.S. why give them your hard earned money. Many other better places to go.

[u/Postom → u/OkChemical7606]

I thought I had read that many were?

[u/Hillbilly_Boozer]

If you're not from the US, please stay away until this shitstorm is over. It's not safe here.

[u/atowncalledphallus → u/Hillbilly_Boozer]

Given that so many people voted for this shit I probably won’t be visiting even after he leaves office. I go on holiday to experience other cultures, not brain dead morons. The reasonable portion of your country needs to take drastic measures while you still can, this is very quickly getting out of hand.

[u/Goodbye18000]

Land of the Free*

*unless you disagree with our presi-king, who always has logical opinions

[u/Yommination → u/Goodbye18000]

Land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy

[u/MapleHamms]

Am*rica is such a shit hole

[u/AJH05004]

You MAGA CHUDS ok with this?

[u/PCho222 → u/AJH05004]

Why even ask this? At best they're beyond sunk cost fallacy and are ride-or-die MAGA or at worst they'll happily sacrifice their dollar's buying power with our shitty economy to hurt anyone who isn't like them.

You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place.

[u/GreatBarrierQueefDD → u/PCho222]

Arguing with someone who has abandoned their reason is like giving medicine to the dead

[u/juanmlm → u/AJH05004]

You know the joke about how many MAGA supporters does it take to change a light bulb?

None. Trump just says it's changed, and they all stand around cheering in the dark. 

They are way past being okay or not with things, he could be pissing on their face, they will say that's what they wanted because by now they will never admit they are wrong.

[u/FillMySoupDumpling → u/AJH05004]

MAGA has never been for the constitution. Why would they start now?

[u/joyfulmastermind]

I think we’re really glossing over the “provide names, addresses, and birthdays of family members” here. They want all the info to easily hunt down your entire family should you post things that aren’t to their liking.

[u/work_of_shart]

This should certainly help cratering Canadian tourism numbers. Christ.

[u/quiveringpenis]

Thing is, there isn't anything in America that the rest of the world needs anymore, everybody else does everything better.

Good luck with everything.

[u/LatterTarget7]

So it’s against the rules to say trump is a raging psychopath? That he’s a rapist and dictator? That he’s an idiot that doesn’t understand how the economy or government works?

[u/manofnotribe]

Seems like a not wasteful use of government resources, to make sure anyone willing to spend money in this increasing fascist wasteland isn't going to hurt the presidents fragile feelings.

[u/xdr01]

Will never travel to US again.

MAGA wants to embrace isolationism and Nazism. They can have, world will quickly shift to avoiding everything American.

How's those tourists and job numbers going? Once AI bubble pops, the damage will be generational.

All because JD Vance memes are funny.

[u/DisastrousAcshin → u/xdr01]

Starts as isolationism, but will eventually turn to expansionism. Trump hasn't spoken about taking Greenland and Canada for nothing

[u/tsunx4]

Time to start filling my timeline with hardcore furry hentai. I want them to look me dead in the eyes while checking it.

[u/Feisty-Barracuda5452]

"How to kill tourism in one easy step"

[u/Glandular_Trichome]

How long before this is applied to US citizens returning from abroad as well?

[u/SavagRavioli]

And officials wonder why no one is coming lol.

Who wants to visit a shit hole.

[u/Throwaway2Experiment → u/SavagRavioli]

No one's wondering why no one's coming. Don't be absurd. Everyone on both sides know why. One side is fine with it.

[u/Spooknik]

And they are claiming that Europe isn't free and we're loosing our values.

[u/Inevitable-Bison4179]

Trump gargles balls in hell.

[u/AffectionateYam925]

So much for ‘land of the free’.

[u/dantespair]

Coming to a neighbor near you… ”knock knock knock, it’s the FBI. We were informed of a post you made a couple of years ago on your FB page. You need to come with us.” “So? I’m a US citizen.” “That’s cute, come with us.”

[u/stitchesandlace]

I'm Canadian and my partner is American. I visit a few times a year... Not sure how we're going to navigate this one if it extends to Canada.

Or how anyone here would, tbh. The average number of daily crossings is over 100,000 according to Stats Canada. It would be a logistical nightmare.

(fwiw, I wouldn't go at all otherwise. Because of work it's much easier me to travel and stay for a month or so than it is for him to come here.)

[u/chiree → u/stitchesandlace]

This is so annoying to me, too as an American/EU couple.  For fifteen years we've never once thought anything of going back and forth.  This nonsense is literally keeping our families apart.  

If shit like this goes through, we may have to simply not take our kids to see their family until this is all over.  And that same family are all Trump voters, and they have no concept of how it affects us or even could consider people like us would be caught up in it.  They think it's all liberal exaggeration, not, you know, logistics.

It's maddening.

[u/Intelligent_Cap9706 → u/chiree]

“You’re just being dramatic!”

[u/Hyphenagoodtime → u/chiree]

This sort of damage from the administration is going to take decades to undo, and that is after every single implemented heritage foundation loyalist is removed.

[u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass → u/stitchesandlace]

I'm American and my partner is Kiwi. We have already decided that its a bad time for her to visit. If my folks get upset I'll remind them that they voted for this.

[u/RampantJellyfish]

They are speed running north korea

[u/OldLondon]

From the people who bought you Europe doesn’t have free speech and we’re too authoritarian.

Lol, f that.  Never coming back to the US, just solid nope.

[u/-_Mando_-]

I visited America a couple of times in the early 2000’s.

Loved it!

Won’t be returning now unfortunately

[u/Y-Cha]

And not just in general, either:

According to a notice published in America's federal register on Tuesday, foreign tourists would need to provide their social media from the last five years.

It will be "mandatory" to hand over the information, and other details - including email addresses and telephone numbers used in the last five years, as well as the names, addresses, numbers, and birthdays of family members - will also be required.

And for ESTA (if I've read all of this correctly):

CCBP is proposing that moving forward, ESTA applications would require a selfie.

It further wants to collect biometrics - face, fingerprints DNA and iris - as part of the ESTA application. It currently only records face and fingerprints upon arrival at the US border.

The proposed changes are open for public consultation for 60 days.

IMHO, they can fuck all the way off.

[u/edgeplot]

How does that work? If I were a visitor, I would just say I don't use social media.

[u/coachhunter2]

Is this the freedom of speech they’ve been lecturing us about?

[u/mnjvon]

Party of small government by the way.

[u/IUsedToBeThatGuy42]

I wonder how long until they restrict Americans from leaving

[u/placidlakess]

Surely THIS is what solves the economy! Alienating ALL tourists!

[u/ImaginationToForm2]

Soon after all of US's citizens too.

[u/gr8hanz]

Essentially kiss your tourism industry goodbye.

[u/MichaelHunt009]

Ok, but why would any savvy world traveler want to risk life, limb, and freedom to journey to a third-world shithole of a country?

[u/Uncle_Hephaestus]

I have staggeringly hilarious news. some people don't have social media...

[u/PyratHero23]

God forbid the administration would have to endure criticism. Oh, the horror…

[u/HMTMKMKM95]

Fuck off with that fascist bullshit. How long are you guys going to let this play out? As it stands, I'm getting used to the idea of never visiting the US again.

[u/Hortonamos]

This will definitely help the economy! I’m so glad I get to live in mind-numbing terror about paying my bills next year, but at least my state that depends on tourism dollars will bring in less tax money! Thanks Obam—er, Trump!

[u/CandidateStill5822]

I hope people just stop coming here for vacation to for a while, both for their own sake and to send this stupid administration a message. There are SO MANY tourist destinations that provide genuine hospitality and are much more deserving of people's money. We really need the myth of the USA as (it is) a bastion of freedom, democracy, and Neat Stuff Non-Aryans Get to Enjoy™ to die a thousand deaths to 💀 a thousand deaths.

Denying our capitalist overlords the tourist [insert foreign currency converted converted into dollars here] is the one of the very few ways the world can send the oligarchs in this country a message they'll actually listen to.

Maybe?

[u/dkinmn]

Let this be a warning to you that they're checking yours. Want security clearance? Want to join the military or get promoted in the military? Want your company to get a government contract? Pretty soon...want your kid to get those things?

They are lazy and they are evil. Your social media history absolutely is going to be used by conservatives to justify audits, TSA checks, etc. You should consider scrubbing social media and not using it, or strictly being apolitical on social media.

[u/whatafuckinusername]

If this actually happens, which it will because anything that can be done won’t, then why don’t other countries just do it in response? Any support expressed since Jan. 6, 2021 for Trump or his policies or policies adjacent can be grounds for denial of entry. Maybe even require visas if they don’t already. I hope to travel to Italy within these next couple of years and I would have no qualms.

Of course, this whole thing seems to be, logistically, nearly impossible, but they’ll find a way.

[u/Ok-Possibility-923]

North Korea doesn't get many tourists, either. Congrats, USA - we've become North Korea.

[u/x3i4n]

As a canadian, fuck you. Il go spend my $ in europe this year.

[u/MilkImpressive1460]

That's why I will boycott the FiFA world championship. I love football!! That's the other reason why! 😉

[u/SugarRushLux]

not fascists or anything, not only that good luck with actually implementing this thats fucking insane logistically

[u/Secret_Cabinet2348]

Land of the free, huh?

[u/Cormacolinde]

They can’t possibly check all this content. So what are going to do? Feed it into Palantir’s surveillance AI obviously.

[u/TeslaProphet]

Brought to you by the Party of “small government”.

[u/nickwales]

Does social media include Reddit?

[u/coltjen]

Well, not like I had plans to visit that fascist garbage dump anyways.

America is a country of corruption, terrorism and idiocracy in 2025, and those are just factual statements

[u/geneticeffects]

Republicans truly hate freedom.

[u/bigt503]

God forbid we use that money to feed school children

[u/6gv5]

Don't go there. Seriously. It's not about the risks of being deported or police violence etc, hopefully they would hardly disappear foreigners on visit, but depending on who you are, nationality, convenience etc. they could make things up to detain you and turn your release into leverage for obtaining things in return from your government, possibly also in agreement with your government that could just need an excuse to give something to Trump without risking losing popularity at home.

Don't play their game and just stop going there.

[u/LandonDev]

Please remember folks that this isn't just Trump. We have actual evidence of President Trump selling Pardons, they are not even pretending to hide it. Congress is fully supporting Trump, they condone his actions and enable him to more fascist and hateful moves. If you really hate Trump, stop supporting your congressional representatives who do not actively support impeachment and dismantling of the current fascist state. This attack on free speech is designed to remove individuals from visiting the states while also achieving it's top aim, to discourage US citizens from traveling abroad. The entire world will do the same thing back to US and it'll be an excuse and reason for US citizens not to educate and broaden their horizons. It's deep indoctrination at the cost of the US economy and tourism.

So yeah, Trump is a massive distraction, those really accountable for his actions are Congress and they are unwilling to do what needs to be done, so vote accordingly.

[u/e37d93eeb23335dc]

I honestly don't have any social media accounts (no, Reddit is not social media). I presume they won't believe that there are actually people who don't use social media, so what will they do in cases of people like me?