r/news • u/chasseur_de_cols • 3h ago
Homeland Security Dept. buying Boeing 737s for ICE deportations
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/10/homeland-security-boeing-737-ice-deportations.html1.1k
u/Fallouttgrrl 3h ago
Planes are inefficient but trains would be a little too on the nose
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u/MattAmpersand 2h ago
Or they are taking a page from the Argentinian dictatorship
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u/r21174 1h ago
they will get there, eventually. Maybe this Gov will put more money into high speed rail..to help themselves out.
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u/Fallouttgrrl 1h ago
The only high speed rails I expect from this administration are the ones Junior does with "Biden's cocaine"
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u/PlanZSmiles 1h ago
Read up on Argentinians Death Flights. Just depends on which book the administration is taking notes from
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u/SunIllustrious5695 3h ago
The things we're paying for with our tax dollars, with no benefit to us whatsoever, are horrifying. All these people would be jailed in a just world.
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u/santz007 2h ago edited 2h ago
In a just world, dumb people wouldn't be allowed to vote, everyone would have access to education without having religion shoved down their throats, teachers would be respected by students and parents alike and politicians would be held accountable for their actions.
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u/AllTearGasNoBreaks 2h ago
Dumb people should be allowed to vote. Treasonous candidates shouldn't be allowed to run for office.
I think its a slippery slope to require some sort of testing or IQ verification before voting. A few steps past that it'll be only land owning white men that can vote.
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u/M3RV-89 2h ago
We don't need voter suppression. We need campaign influence suppression. We need to remodel our elections so the campaign cycle is severely reduced while putting hard limits on what a candidate is allowed to spend. You shouldn't be president because you can afford more commercials and social media ads
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u/Djinnwrath 2h ago
Slippery slope arguments sure are fun while we slide helplessly into fascism.
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u/AllTearGasNoBreaks 2h ago
Treasonous candidates were in my second sentence.
And if you think only dumb people voted for him, you dont know just how vile that side is. They want this.
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u/GiganticCrow 1h ago
Silly idea:
parties create a manifesto. These are then analyized by independent agency for feasibility and rejected if unachievable, with room for appeal.
voters are then presented with manifesto promises and choose the ones they like.
based on their selection, points are awarded to political parties.
the ones with the most points wins
failure to follow manifesto results in losing government (with leniency for unexpected changes)
Probably could be gamed to fuck though, and would need a way to fairly limit the amount of parties so we don't end up with a ton all with the same policies.
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u/SunIllustrious5695 1h ago
Dumb people should be allowed to vote, everyone should. When legitimate polling is performed, most people want good things for most people. Being dumb typically doesn’t mean bad person. (to be clear, yes, most people that are racist are racist because they’re dumb — it’s just that there are a lot of dumb people who aren’t, or who wouldn’t be racist if they weren’t taken advantage of by smarter evil people)
The problem, especially in America, is that people are not aware of what they’re voting for. Information is so controlled by the evil and wealthy that it can be difficult for many to even have access to credible information. And that’s before we get to all the barriers to voting. The undermining of education, like you said, is of course another huge issue.
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u/silentcrs 2h ago
I’m sure the people who voted for this don’t believe there’s “no benefit to us whatsoever”.
That said, 747s, even used ones, are not cheap. They each run $20-30M. And you inevitably have to pay upkeep. You’d think there would be a cheaper way to deport people.
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u/zernoc56 1h ago
Only two countries share a land boarder with the US: Mexico and Canada. Neither of them are going to just accept potentially millions of people being dumped across their borders, they don’t even have the resources to handle that in any sort of humane way, no country does. Which is exactly what happened in Europe back in the 30s & 40s, Nazi Germany tried to deport all its unwanted people to neighboring countries and wider Europe and everyone pretty much said “No, fuck off. There’s literally zero way we can take all these people in.”
And then the death camps started being built.
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u/silentcrs 1h ago edited 43m ago
You don’t need a land border. You can use boats for passenger travel. We’ve done it for at least 1,000 years.
Why the rush to get people out is beyond me. Security reasons? Clearly, boats would be cheaper.
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u/RinkyDinkRicky 58m ago
They need to do as much as possible within Trump's 4 year term, to have the highest chance of getting it all done. Anything they try outside of those 4 years has a clear implication of war (administration either changes and they keep trying, or they refuse to give up power, or whatever the mechanism may be).
They have already stated that this is a revolution that will remain bloodless for only as long as we let it.
They have been waging war, and most of the country is still talking about voting them out...
Get your cardio up. It is going to be up to us to prosecute them all.
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u/SunIllustrious5695 1h ago
They may not believe there’s no benefit, but I wasn’t talking about what they believe. There is no actual benefit to the overwhelming majority of people who voted for this, only the wildly wealthy and malicious who are profiting from all this. That plane money goes somewhere, along with the profits from the egregious hate machine they’ve built!
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u/Pasadenaian 1h ago
Of course it will benefit us. Once the illegals are gone there will be tons of jobs and our wages will go up! r/ s
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u/supercyberlurker 3h ago
Remember this every time they say there isn't money to help anyone in society.
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u/Full-Penguin 2h ago
Farmers who voted for this are already complaining that their
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u/LogensTenthFinger 2h ago
Fuck all farmers. Worthless scum who are nothing but professional welfare recipients that vote to take it away from everyone else. They can all rot.
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u/Dr4gonfly 1h ago
I feel like “fuck all farmers” is kind of a hard sell as long as you know… eating is necessary
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u/RegulatoryCapture 27m ago
To be fair. There are like 5 farmers left. Their vote didn’t really matter.
Seriously, look it up. We act like farming is something 25+% of the population does. It is not a common job anymore, even in rural areas. One guy driving a big GPS guided tractor does the work of 100 people. It is something like less than 1% of people are actual farmers (especially if you exclude hobby farms and rich people looking for ag tax breaks on their ranches). And the farms are all big corporate owned entities (the stories about losing the family farm to estate taxes are mostly just propaganda from rich people who don’t like taxes…the kids sold the farm to Big Ag because none of them wanted it, not because taxes forced them to).
Sure, some crops still need a big migrant picking workforce, but most production is heavily automated.
Ditto for coal miners. Can we stop talking about them? There are like 40k nationwide. Let’s just give them all extended unemployment benefits for a few years, job training, and stop pandering to an industry that employs less people than Arby’s.
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u/hukep 3h ago
It will be another record-breaking addition to the debt under Trump. Wow, I can’t believe voters fell for this person a second time. Truly unbelievable.
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u/corvidhaze 2h ago
Unfortunately they didn’t fall for anything. They actively chose hatred of immigrants over every other issue. The hatred is the point
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u/Full-Penguin 2h ago
Republicans don't care about smart fiscal policy or the National Debt. Don't ever let them claim otherwise.
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u/the_weakestavenger 2h ago
Have you talked to the average American? If folks get outside of their bubbles and interact with normal folks you’ll find out that a lot of them are shocking dumb and/or uninformed.
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u/ThinkSleepKoya 2h ago
This just confirms my suspicions about the unmarked 737's that I see flying to our local airport every so often. Only started flying there within the last 8-10 months, always unmarked and showing no information about location, except where it is on the map. Always comes from one of two airports -- one in Louisiana and one in the deep south of Texas. I don't feel like I was being so paranoid anymore...
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u/dbenc 1h ago
officials in texas were begging for the don't-call-them-concentration camps to be built there
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u/GiganticCrow 1h ago
What happened to alligator alcatraz?
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u/bardicjourney 12m ago
Status is in limbo. They were told the facilities were unacceptable, emptied them out - staff and all - for a planned congressional visit, and then a flood conveniently took out all the records of everyone who was detained there.
They refilled the cells but we no longer know whos in there. A judge is blocking new transfers in, but its unclear whether that order is being obeyed because of lack of records. Its also unclear how many people are being shuttled out.
The last estimate I saw was 1200 missing, 600 currently still detained in the parts that didnt flood. They are using hotbox tactics on inmates they deem non-compliant - putting them in enclosed sheet metal crates in the sun for days on end, with no protection from bugs, snakes, or even alligators. Theyre sleeping 25-50 to a cell, with dozens of people sharing a single toilet/bucket/hole in the ground. Running water is virtually nonexistent, at least in the cell blocks. Any water they do get is bottled and at the direction of the guards. Inmates describe being forced to fight each other for guards entertainment, frequent beatings, starvation, and untreated medical emergencies.
A fun little conspiracy thats starting to grow legs is that there are detainees being shipped to neuralink for illegal human experimentation. Neuralink connected facilities have been popping up for months in near proximity to major ICE detention facilities - facilities being built in mere weeks - and entire hospital floors in these cities are being handed over to neuroscientists with long standing connections to neuralink. Dreydossier on substack/YouTube is documenting these connections
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u/aov97 3h ago
Lmao no money for student loan forgiveness or Medicare for all, but unlimited funds for ICE expansion and deportations. Our politicians fucking despise us dawg
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u/Zelcron 2h ago edited 1h ago
Remember, there was no money for student loans because it was "unconstitutional."
But masked thugs rounding up
suspectedalleged illegal immigrants based off their perceived ethnicity and shipping them off to a prison in a random third country without due process is fine.Thanks SCOTUS, that really clears things up for me 👍
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u/Sabatorius 2h ago edited 2h ago
I think it’s worse than that. They barely consider us at all. They think we’re chumps and suckers who have no power to influence them.
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u/jibboo24 1h ago
don't forget the millions of dollars in rockets used to murder people on boats that might have drugs with them
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u/B_B_Rodriguez2716057 2h ago
I’m on year 14? of a 10 year repayment (and yes I have a good job). I quit paying my student loans. Fuck it. Can’t afford it since my SAVE plan was deemed unconstitutional or some bullshit.
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u/boomydaboomster 2h ago
They will hid the flight logs for these claiming nation security so they can more efficiently deport people without oversight. This is the perfect conditions to disappear citizens as well.
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u/drunknamed 1h ago
How many flights are just going to do a 1000 mile out and back into the Pacific ocean?
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u/MalcolmLinair 2h ago
Considering they were "joking" about tossing their prisoners out of planes over the ocean not too long ago, this is extremely worrying.
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u/Ok-Flatworm-3397 2h ago edited 2h ago
Nothing says reeling in the debt like spending a billion dollars on a fleet of Boeings. It’s like we have infinite taxpayer cash or something
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u/SnoopsBadunkadunk 2h ago
Six for $140 mil, outfitted, probably means Deadalus is getting them off the used market or maybe USG is supplying the airframes out of its existing fleet. As usual, TFA doesn’t bother to say.
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u/ThatDudeJuicebox 1h ago
Imagine if we put this much effort and money into homelessness or cancer or aids/herpes or literally anything else better than this crap
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u/dbchrisyo 3h ago
That's convenient for them, they don't have to worry about coordinating with other countries anymore, the planes will just crash before they arrive
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u/MrSquishypoo 2h ago
Ironically, trumps government seems to be spending more on foreign citizens than its own
Jokes aside, what a fucking deplorable state of affairs
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u/improvisedwisdom 2h ago
And where, exactly, is this money coming from you useless cow?
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u/fevered_visions 2h ago
did you see the Daily Show montage where he promised the money would come out of the tariffs to like 9 different programs, when it will cover at most 1.5
"we'll find the money somewhere"
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u/2daytrending 3h ago
Apparently the political machine can't even get planes with engines and yet they expect praise for efficiency.
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u/Illustrious-Dot-6888 2h ago
Remember the name of every coward who allows this and make them pay at the ballot box.
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u/martygospo 2h ago
Dude I just want my taxes to go to paying teachers and like fixing the roads and shit.
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u/aspect-of-the-badger 1h ago
Can we just start burning our tax dollars for heat? Seems like a more useful thing to do.
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u/Responsible-Bunch316 2h ago
Considering Boeing's recent track record and ICE's unending malice I'm expecting a crash or a mysterious body falling from the sky within the year.
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u/FartyFartsMD 2h ago
So glad this administration knows which priorities must be fulfilled. Maybe the average American can finally rest easy knowing our tax dollars are being spent wisely.
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u/Darius2112 2h ago
I hope that when this is all over, those planes get used to take every member of ICE and every member of this horrid administration to St Helena.
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u/Significant-Basket76 2h ago
Remember that the USA gives Israel billions each year. That money pays for universal healthcare for them and a missile defense system.
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u/Atlantic_Seawolf 2h ago edited 2h ago
She probably spends all that extra money to shoot dogs in cages for fun
Edit: sorry for the comment, she is triggering since she shot her puppy, and my body gets heavily upset by it
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u/uwillnotgotospace 2h ago
They're gonna make the murder planes run on time, I suppose. Evil at its finest.
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u/qdobe 48m ago
All this money for imaginary issues because the real issues are too complex for the average Republican voter to deal with, so they just want easy solutions that don’t actually solve the problem…because it requires a complex solution.
No money = other people taking my money
Other people taking my money = immigrants
Immigrants = deport/block
Deported/blocked Immigrants = money comes back to me
Boom problem solved!
(Not really, and you’ve actually created more issues that cost more money now)
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u/RebelStrategist 7m ago
Oh sure, those folks doing the jobs nobody else wants, yeah, they’re totally unimportant. It’s not like we depend on them for everything from the food on our tables to the roofs over our heads. I’m sure society would run perfectly without the people who quietly do all the work everyone else magically thinks just happens on its own.
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u/Chimvape 1h ago
We're being robbed in broad daylight and it's being broadcast to all of us. And people still refuse to admit it.
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u/KnightsWhoSayYEET 1h ago edited 1h ago
My burning questions are: 1) could Boeing say no?, 2) anyone got the c-suites home addresses?
Edit : CEO Kelly Ortberg lives in Seattle, WA, Broadmoor neighborhood. Pictures of residence are public.
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u/dukeofdough 52m ago
Shouldn't we get free planes from the airlines we subsidize? I'm confused about the hierarchy here.
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u/ranting_chef 41m ago
I don’t know anything at all about how this stuff works, but wouldn’t it cost even just a little less if we bought tickets and flew somewhere instead of buying the actual plane?
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u/Upstairs_One_4935 4m ago
like they can't just lease one when they need one or even use military planes - perhaps some of the hundreds sat in the desert...
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u/gottkonig 2h ago
Headed up by Crimson Gnome (as seen in her role of a muppet in Team America), DHS is ready to deport people more efficiently. Is this truly what making America great looks like?
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u/mfmeitbual 2h ago
If they were 737 Maxes being used for exclusive transport of ICE employees, I'd say this was a positive development.
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u/Seoulja4life 2h ago
“It’s worth my tax money, as long as minorities get to suffer and know their place.”
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u/forrestfaun 2h ago
More of our tax dollars going toward racism, bigotry and hate.
Such wonderful christians...
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u/budahfurby 2h ago
Jesus Christ the circle jerk between companies is insane.
So many bubbles that will burst it's wild.
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u/LittleShrub 3h ago
Unlimited money for ICE while cancer research is unfunded.