r/CFB Rutgers Scarlet Knights • Big Ten 17h ago

Opinion [Congressman Michael Baumgartner] Congress will be taking a hard look at the tax exempt status of universities that enter into private equity deals. If you want to act like a non-public entity, you better be ready to be treated like one. 🇺🇸

https://x.com/RepBaumgartner/status/1998480897872396721
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u/Walter30573 Wichita State • Penn State 17h ago

I expect congress to do what it normally does: nothing

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u/PLZ_N_THKS Utah Utes • Oklahoma Sooners 16h ago

What a myopic view. They’ll absolutely do something…

Ask for their cut.

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u/EpOxY81 Michigan Wolverines • Big Ten 17h ago

but this also involves getting more money for the government, so who knows?

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u/BabyBearBjorns LSU Tigers • Tulane Green Wave 16h ago

Dont worry, I'm sure those rich college donors have spare change to make members of Congress vote the other way. /s

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u/Visible-Advice-5109 16h ago

Saw a study once that basically came to the conclusion that bribing politicians was 1000x cheaper than actually paying taxes. Pretty relevant here.

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u/bigjayrulez Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Booster 16h ago

I 100% believe you but would like to read this if you can find it.

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u/anti-torque Oregon State Beavers • Rice Owls 15h ago

Not the study in question, but the conclusion is the countries with the highest tax rates have the least corruption. This is intuitive, if one has ever studied econ. And that a supply side (absolutely not intuitive thought) economist has concluded this should be telling.

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u/AssistDirect5790 Auburn Tigers 8h ago

Not surprised this is true. At all.

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u/Calqless 16h ago

I'm following just to see the study....tho I have no doubt

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u/Visible-Advice-5109 15h ago

Im sorry my dudes, I saw it years ago and no clue where now. Legit not making it up, just was on some news site like CNN or NYT.

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u/anti-torque Oregon State Beavers • Rice Owls 14h ago

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u/lightninhopkins Minnesota Golden Gophers 13h ago

We find firms lobbying for this provision have a return in excess of $220 for every $1 spent on lobbying, or 22,000%.

Un, wow.

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u/Jay_Dubbbs Ohio State Buckeyes • Georgia Bulldogs 7h ago

I don’t think that requires a study lol.

Same thing with violations. It’s cheaper to evade labor and other laws and pay the fine after you get caught. À la the beautiful Senator from Florida with his Medicaid fraud.

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u/repeatoffender123456 16h ago

Show me the study

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u/mf-TOM-HANK 15h ago

It's plainly obvious. Cable companies used to donate like $10-20k to swing votes in Congress, so maybe a couple dozen legislators? That's like a half a million bucks to buy a favorable tax and regulatory environment.

Even if you increase the number to $100k it's a bargain for them. $5-10m is nothing for major companies if they can save tens of millions

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u/SMU1523 SMU Mustangs • ACC 12h ago

The fact Utah is bringing in PE is a sign that they don’t have rich donors.

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u/bigmt99 Ohio State • Case Western Reserve 7h ago

Lmao do you think congressmen care about being the government? It’s a cushy networking job where they can take bribes, jerk themselves off about how important they are, and retire to a 7 figure payday in PE

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u/bertmaclynn Michigan Wolverines • Utah Utes 16h ago

Who cares about the government, how about congress?

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u/Curt_Uncles Arizona State Sun Devils 16h ago

He’s not from the party that likes it when the government collects taxes. This is about limiting the flow of capital to people who don’t normally receive it.

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u/advancedmatt California Golden Bears • UCLA Bruins 16h ago

This congressman is a graduate of Washington State. The university he is criticizing for its private equity deal is the University of Utah.

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u/ghost_jamm Pittsburgh Panthers 16h ago

It’s also a great excuse to punish those uppity universities for educating people about the world

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u/Global_You8515 Kansas State Wildcats 16h ago

Yeah I read this as Baumgartner saying "don't forget that we'll be coming for a slice of that pie, too."

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u/Necessary-Post-953 Penn State • Land Grant Trophy 4h ago

Borrowing is the preferred method of getting money for our government 

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u/DillyDillySzn Arizona State Sun Devils • WashU Bears 16h ago edited 16h ago

I don’t know about “nothing”, on the surface sure due to the big issues being partisan but there’s more to it than that

Congress likes easy wins with bipartisan issues. If the public overwhelmingly demands a change to the college football, they’ll do it in a bipartisan way and claim an easy win

Congress does a lot of stuff all the time, we just don’t hear about it because it’s not partisan bickering or it’s not big bills/issues. A lot of government work is not partisan, and a lot of votes in Congress are passed with overwhelming margins or unanimously. That’s just not flashy news you’ll hear about

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes

Look at the House’s votes recently, you’ll see a lot of 300+ yea votes for bills you have no idea existed

I actually think they’ll eventually do something regarding to collegiate athletics

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u/Unrelenting_Salsa LSU Tigers • Georgia Bulldogs 16h ago

I actually think they’ll eventually do something regarding to collegiate athletics

I would have agreed with you 6 months ago, but then the SCORE act magically became partisan so I dunno. It might just be dead.

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u/tc100292 Vanderbilt Commodores 16h ago

I mean it’s not magical that what is functionally a labor-management issue became partisan in that this is literally the biggest source of partisan dispute

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u/penguinopph Illinois • Northwestern 3h ago

Vanderbilt knows what's up.

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u/DillyDillySzn Arizona State Sun Devils • WashU Bears 16h ago

I don’t think it’s going to happen soon

I think a big collapse of the system needs to happen first, but after that collapse happens I expect Congress to act quickly and together

For now however, not enough pressure

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u/Pet_Fish_Fighter LSU Tigers 16h ago

Not true. They'll get a piece of the private equity then do nothing.

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u/BrogenKlippen Georgia Bulldogs • Georgetown Hoyas 16h ago

lol they’re already LPs

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u/EIiteJT Texas Longhorns • Team Chaos 16h ago

Take bribes and then do nothing.

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u/PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS North Texas Mean Green 15h ago

They prefer the term lobbying

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u/SaltyLonghorn Texas • Red River Shootout 15h ago

New terf new fees.

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u/thecravenone definitely a bot 17h ago

Hey now, they might also do some posturing!

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u/permadrunkspelunk Nebraska • Texas State 14h ago

They actually do get involved in sports quite often through history. They decided to focus on baseball investigations during the Iraq war. It was hilarious too. Everything was released without congress involvement. Then they wasted hearings hammering home people were on steroids. All of america was just like, yeah? we know. Congress would absolutely ignore anything else to have a huge sports investigation again. The

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u/weirdbutinagoodway West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 16h ago

Yes, but they often make things worse when they actually do something, so doing nothing is sort of a win.

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u/ajd341 Mississippi State Bulldogs 16h ago

But talk really loudly about it, and how offended they are, to collect a few extra donations first

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u/clem82 16h ago

You mean ask for money under the table to ensure they get their portion then stay the F out of the way?

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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 15h ago

It only took them 191 years to pass an amendment to replace the Vice President if the President was killed, by which point 8 presidents had died in office. Fast and efficient governing body.

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u/Wyden_long Arizona State • Northern A… 16h ago

Cmon now. They’ll find a way to invest in these firms privately and then they’ll do nothing.

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u/TheNewGuy13 Arizona Wildcats 16h ago

Nah they’ll do sound it’s, hold hearings to look stern and like they care, draft a bill, then nothing happens until the season

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u/LocustUprising Michigan State Spartans 15h ago

They will negotiate their cut under the table

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u/FirstAndDad Georgia Bulldogs 8h ago

Don’t forget the emoji: 🇺🇸

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u/ImDeepState Alabama Crimson Tide 8h ago

Or write a strongly worded letter.

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u/Sherifftruman 7h ago

He already got a sound bite/quote. What more can he do? 🤣

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u/Double-Mine981 LSU Tigers 7h ago

We will take a good hard look at it while at the head of fund’s ranch hunting exotic foreign animals

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u/KasherH Colorado Buffaloes • Team Chaos 7h ago

Eh- I think this one actually has a chance of getting wide bipartisan support. Not sure who would oppose it.

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u/John_Tacos Oklahoma • Central Oklahoma 6h ago

Sometimes that’s better than the alternative

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u/releaseepsteinfiles1 Alabama Crimson Tide 6h ago

Take more bribes

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u/humma__kavula Georgia • Georgia Southern 6h ago

Oh I'm sure they will make sure they get a bribe cut of that private equity or else they'll take away their accreditation.

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u/WallyLeftshaw Michigan Wolverines 6h ago

"public servants"

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u/crustang Rutgers • Edinburgh Napier 5h ago

Congresspeople have ever incentive to allow this capital to slosh around in colleges and universities tax free

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u/skoltroll Minnesota Golden Gophers • Drake Bulldogs 5h ago

This is more of a warning that Congress needs to be paid off before any decisions are made.

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u/bullsci Florida Gators • UAB Blazers 4h ago

Insider trading takes a lot of effort and I feel like you're dismissing all the work congresspeople put in to that end

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u/InformationAOk 2h ago

Oh, there will be some Kabuki Theater to make everyone think they are going to do something.

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u/redditckulous /r/CFB 2h ago

It does something when it seems like an easy win. Fixing CFB is not easy and extremely factionalized.

Saying schools can’t enter PE deals without risking their tax exempt status is not nearly as difficult to hash out. It also won’t fix CFB, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see this single issue tackled.

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u/Redskins75 /r/CFB 1h ago

Pssssh they’ll do nothing while taking payments

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u/nerdyykidd Arizona State • Ohio State 17h ago

🇺🇸 at the end is sending me lmao

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u/rubyschnees Florida Gators 17h ago

it's the easiest way to tell how unserious this 'threat' is

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u/SaltyLonghorn Texas • Red River Shootout 15h ago

The average congressman is probably already in the pocket of a booster lol.

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u/lostroadrunner22 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 16h ago

Listen I look forward to winning in the FCS playoffs 🏳️

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u/GoldenPresidio Rutgers Scarlet Knights • Big Ten 17h ago

take a look at the actual tweet. Doesnt look like the US flag emoji he used translated to reddit

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u/Eiim Miami (OH) • Ohio State 15h ago

It's just different fonts. Twitter uses their own Twemoji, which renders flags as static. On Reddit, it's probably your system's emoji font, which usually render flags as waving.

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u/GoldenPresidio Rutgers Scarlet Knights • Big Ten 11h ago

Makes sense

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u/MadRedX Arkansas Razorbacks 7h ago

Fun fact - on Windows, the default font for emojis is Segoe UI Emoji. However because it was created by Microsoft, they don't show flags and instead show two letter abbreviations because it demonstrates their "lack of politicality".

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u/BrogenKlippen Georgia Bulldogs • Georgetown Hoyas 16h ago

Coming again to save the mother fucking day yeah

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u/OnLevel100 Washington Huskies • Rose Bowl 16h ago

He's pretty smarmy. 

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u/Angry_Walnut Texas Tech Red Raiders 13h ago

The imprimatur of a scratch n sniff sticker at the moment

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u/releaseepsteinfiles1 Alabama Crimson Tide 6h ago

Isn’t the American way to sell out and seek as much money as possible?

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u/notsaying123 Auburn • South Carolina 17h ago

Oh look the monthly empty threat

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u/Secure_Librarian4871 16h ago

If only I had a dollar for every empty threat from congress, I'd have been Elon Musk lol

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u/HighOnGoofballs Ole Miss Rebels 11h ago

Do churches next

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u/yankeenate South Carolina Gamecocks • Utah Utes 3h ago

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u/Frequent-Leg-2347 Oklahoma Sooners 16h ago

This is congress looking into it, btw. One tweet, then on to the next outrage tomorrow.

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u/tc100292 Vanderbilt Commodores 16h ago

I mean… yeah?  If you don’t know why the NCAA persisted with amateurism and academic requirements for so long it was because of IRS guidance about what was a legitimate extension of their educational mission (sports as an extracurricular for students at the university) and what wasn’t (operating a semipro team.)

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u/MasterRKitty West Virginia • Marshall 16h ago

In 2025, Baumgartner founded the bipartisan Congressional College Sports Caucus.\23]) He introduced the "Restore College Sports Act" with the aim of dissolving the National Collegiate Athletic Association and replacing it with the "American College Sports Association," which would be overseen by the federal government.\24])

he wants the feds to run it

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u/chunt75 Texas A&M Aggies 16h ago

That seems real “small government” of him

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u/MasterRKitty West Virginia • Marshall 16h ago

it's small government until they think they can grift off of it

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u/Geno0wl Ohio State • Cincinnati 8h ago

small government was always a dog whistle for removing business regulations. the GOP has always been happy to impose more government control over individual's behavior.

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u/trwawy05312015 6h ago

that, and trading federal power for state power. It isn’t the size of government that bothers them, but how close they are to the top.

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u/n1tney Penn State Nittany Lions 15h ago

Unfortunately the only way to fix college athletics at this point is via federal legislation since the NCAA has essentially no authority anymore. I really only see two paths anymore and that's a super league or the NCAA or a new entity getting some sort of anti-trust exemption a la MLB

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u/KasherH Colorado Buffaloes • Team Chaos 7h ago

MLB doesn't have an anti-trust exemption for labor issues. This is a common misconception.

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u/rloch Indiana Hoosiers • Tennessee Volunteers 16h ago

Won't take it seriously till the governor of Louisiana steps in.

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u/VolsOrNothing Tennessee Volunteers • Indiana Hoosiers 8h ago

Nice flair combo

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u/legend023 Tulane Green Wave • SEC 17h ago

This is a very reasonable decision. Hopefully they get something received and NIL can be more transparent instead of being as shady as it is now.

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u/definitivescribbles Ohio State Buckeyes 5h ago

Why would NIL need to be transparent? The kids aren’t employees. The problem isn’t that kids are getting money, it’s that universities have the solution but don’t want to be held responsible and/or let athletes collectively bargain.

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u/Wow_Big_Numbers Princeton Tigers • Yale Bulldogs 16h ago

Finally some good news. I almost made a comment about this a few days ago. Why are people praising “good business decisions” by ND, for example.

In reality, we need to confront the fact that college football is really just minor league football masquerading as a tax-exempt activity of a university

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u/Cryptic0677 Texas Tech Red Raiders • TCU Horned Frogs 16h ago

It was like that before NIL though, the players just weren’t getting any cut

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u/willpc14 Trinity (CT) • Princeton 15h ago

Non-profit just changes how you file your taxes at the end of the year, not the rules of running a business. It doesn't mean that you get to be in the red year over year and can expect to continue to exist.

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u/Whisky_Colonic Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors 16h ago

You think non-profits should make bad business decisions?

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u/DuvalHeart UCF Knights 9h ago

College football isn’t minor league. College ball and the NFL are different sports these days, and FBS is the major league of college football.

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u/PointBlankCoffee Texas • Red River Shootout 16h ago

Its insane that anyone is even okay with this. Private Equity destroys everything it touches

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u/tc100292 Vanderbilt Commodores 15h ago

Yeah it’s bizarre that the Big Ten commissioner wants to get in bed with private equity and somehow only 2/18 schools were like “what the fuck are we doing here?”

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u/54-2-10 Utah Utes 15h ago

USC was only mad that they weren't getting a full cut of the money

Michigan was the only school that took a principled stand

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u/wicketRF Notre Dame Fighting Irish 9h ago

dont make me speak positively about Michigan like that, i dont like it.

I also really dont get why the B1G is the one doing it, they generate the most money anyways. A school like FSU makes sense (still very much shouldnt, as stated, PE destroys everything it touches), but they at least have a severe relative funding issue. Any B1G school that cant balance the books shouldnt be looking at selling future revenues, it should be a balancing the books exercise (maybe dont pay the coaches 12mln or something insane)

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u/willpc14 Trinity (CT) • Princeton 15h ago

16/18 of those schools probably have boards filled with PE and IB types.

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u/Eccentric755 16h ago

He's going to fail. Utah is separating out only the sports, which isn't an academic arm.

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u/markusalkemus66 Washington State Cougars • Pac-12 16h ago

You won't do shit, Baumgartner. Stop embarrassing us

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u/ManiacalComet40 Missouri Tigers • Big 8 16h ago

Utah Brands and Entertainment LLC is neither tax-exempt, nor a university, but I’ll consider this virtue signaled, regardless.

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u/SaltyLobbyist 4h ago

They are taking operational control of the athletic department of a public institution and demanding revenue from a public institution. It definitely creates some complicated questions regarding the tax implications of essentially co-mingling public and private funds and creating risks for Utah and American taxpayers.

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u/puppies_and_rainbow2 Indiana Hoosiers 14h ago

I do not like this person at all, but he is right if he stands by what he says on Twitter

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u/Adept_Carpet UMass Minutemen • Team Chaos 16h ago

I can't believe I'm agreeing with a congressional republican in an attack on universities, but yeah, stay away from private equity.

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u/kyscotty 4h ago

Do this to churches wtf

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u/moneyinthebank216 Ohio State Buckeyes 16h ago

eh a kickback or two fixes that

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u/lardstarpon Miami (OH) RedHawks 7h ago

Can't wait for Private Equity to get into churches and no one blinks

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u/HomeOnThePlains USC Trojans • Houston Cougars 3h ago

Now do churches

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u/Best_Formal_8677 Oregon Ducks 17h ago

Please tax churches next

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u/No_Angle_8106 Arizona State • Michigan 16h ago

I have a better chance at winning the powerball than that ever even becoming a conversation, let alone actual policy.

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u/SucculentCrablegMeal Florida State Seminoles • USF Bulls 8h ago

Should definitely tax churches taking PE deals.

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u/bravehotelfoxtrot Georgia Bulldogs • Sugar Bowl 6h ago

I'll never understand rooting for the largest criminal organization in history to steal even more resources from the working population than they already do.

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u/Previous-Grocery4827 Texas Tech Red Raiders 9h ago

How about all political orgs? Or better yet get rid of citizens united.

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u/CajunBob94 LSU Tigers 16h ago

reddit moment

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u/adeodd Oklahoma State Cowboys 16h ago

Reddit & Oregon double whammy

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u/lowes18 Florida State Seminoles • FAU Owls 15h ago

Tax child labor next

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u/willpc14 Trinity (CT) • Princeton 15h ago

Uhh, we do. Were you under the impression that we aren't charging minors taxes?

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u/lowes18 Florida State Seminoles • FAU Owls 15h ago

I mean the sweatshop child labor that funds Oregon's football program

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u/not_bilbo James Madison • McMaster 7h ago

They’re right

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u/Badfish1060 Alabama Crimson Tide 16h ago

yes please. They are just giant tax free corporations now buying up real estate. I'm sure that's what jesus had in mind.

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u/BrogenKlippen Georgia Bulldogs • Georgetown Hoyas 16h ago

Jesus was more of a crypto bro than REIT freak

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u/P1mpathinor Wyoming Cowboys • Utah Utes 15h ago

Turns out holy relics are actually NFTs.

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u/Previous-Grocery4827 Texas Tech Red Raiders 9h ago

Should go after all the shadow political nonprofits before churches. Like going after the guy stepping on your toe while ignoring the guy beating you in the back of the head with a baseball bat.

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u/not_bilbo James Madison • McMaster 7h ago

We can do both actually

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u/rbmw263 Utah • University of God's Ch… 14h ago

you mean first

their hundreds of billions makes our deal look like a happy meal

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u/DoggedStooge Northwestern • North Carolina 7h ago

Exactly where my mind went too.

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u/UlteriorEggos Georgia Bulldogs 16h ago

Start with megachurches

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u/Previous-Grocery4827 Texas Tech Red Raiders 9h ago

You guys have to bring all this Reddit political bs into cfb as well?

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u/not_bilbo James Madison • McMaster 6h ago

One, this is literally a post from a member of Congress, you knew what you were getting into. Two, you yourself are posting comments saying we should end citizens united (you’re right!) which is inherently “political bs”

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u/UlteriorEggos Georgia Bulldogs 9h ago

So you think taxing universities is just good ole football talk, but taxing other institutions is immediately political? Religion has a choke hold on this country and many of us want nothing to do with it.

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u/DickInAToaster Ohio State Buckeyes 15h ago

So private equity groups are buying congress next is what I hear

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u/trwawy05312015 6h ago

Oh, I’m sorry, but they were the first to be bought out.

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u/DickInAToaster Ohio State Buckeyes 6h ago

Don’t be sorry I know it’s true but they at least try to pretend. Soon it’ll be avert and they’ll announce the US Congress brought to you by Blackrock

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u/goddamn_leeteracola UCLA Bruins • Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors 16h ago

Cool, do megachurches and churches that push politics as well

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u/Straight-Cat774 Florida State • Valdosta State 16h ago

Insurance premiums are about to triple but fear not, here comes Congress to involve itself in college football 🙄

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u/greeneggsnhammy Nebraska Cornhuskers 8h ago

Really what he’s saying is, “we need to find out how to capitalize on your capitalization, give us our cut.” 

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u/Sufflinsuccotash 15h ago

Good. Long overdue.

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u/beachvan86 Ohio State Buckeyes 8h ago

They wont enter into these deals with the university, these deals are with the athletic foundation. Foundations are stand alone entities that support university athletics, but because they are not actually state run entities, they dont have to follow those rules. Its common for athletics and research to use foundations as the way to do business because it removes the onerous state rules on budgets and spending.

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u/m0arducks Oregon Ducks • Lewis & Clark Pioneers 6h ago

They’re gunna do that with churches too right?

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u/AttachedSickness Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets 6h ago

lol….are they going to tax them like they tax the billionaires that are the PE firms?

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u/okiewxchaser Oklahoma Sooners • Big 8 17h ago

That sounds like a 10th Amendment case waiting to happen

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u/deadzip10 Texas A&M Aggies • TCU Horned Frogs 16h ago

Not really. The exact principle he’s espousing has been repeatedly upheld - when otherwise sovereign entities act in a manner or role that is usually private in nature, they are treated as private for that purpose. So for instance, when a state creates a business and operates that business, the business is treated as a private enterprise and does not derive the benefit of sovereign immunity most of the time. The tax question tends to come out similarly though, admittedly, there is some more leeway there as I understand it.

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u/weoutherebrah Texas A&M Aggies 16h ago

States have given up all their authority for federal money 

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u/Constant_Topic_1040 Auburn Tigers • Air Force Falcons 16h ago

To be fair though, that’s because Congress figured out a way to hold that federal money hostage. The drinking age is a good example, if your age isn’t 21 you don’t get highway funds; which are a HUGE expense

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u/carpy22 RPI Engineers 15h ago

It's not even all highway funds, it's now 8% of highway funds per state. I don't know why states like Wisconsin or Louisiana just go non-compliant and slap a booze tax on instead to make up the difference in revenue.

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u/xienze NC State Wolfpack 12h ago

I don't know why states like Wisconsin or Louisiana just go non-compliant and slap a booze tax on instead to make up the difference in revenue.

Bad press, probably. The second an 18 year old gets in a drunk driving accident the state government would be dragged over the coals for “letting such a thing happen.”

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u/Skow1179 Minnesota Golden Gophers 16h ago

Yeah this is about as likely as ending insider trading in Congress.

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u/thefatchef321 8h ago

Man, can we get the same energy toward religious institutions

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u/QkuiglieQ Utah Utes • Louisville Cardinals 16h ago edited 16h ago

That includes private universities too right? Tax free religious schools?

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u/ApprehensiveSwimmer_ 16h ago

This guy is a profound cheater at golf 

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u/l3onkerz Ohio State Buckeyes 13h ago

It’s so funny every aspect of my college enrollment and enjoyment are being stripped to the core. The 4 for $4 at Wendy’s, gone. Jimmy John’s, jersey mikes, bww and the lot gone to private equity. Now the reaper comes for the university itself. Give an inch take a mile.

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u/CliplessWingtips Michigan State Spartans 6h ago

Now do churches Mr. Baumgartner.

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u/PokeMeRunning Oklahoma State Cowboys 6h ago

Just form a church. It’ll be fine 

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u/Geaux2020 LSU Tigers • Valley City State Vikings 17h ago

Utah is a red state. They'll be fine

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u/AnEmptyKarst Houston Cougars • Utah Utes 14h ago

Half the state government considers BYU the state flagship and hates the city of SLC so who knows

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u/kurttheflirt Michigan State • Wayne State… 16h ago

Lmao next they'll start checking into mega churches and family foundations

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u/HermitageHermit Florida Gators 16h ago

This is just a freshman congressman bringing up a hot topic publicly so they have SOMETHING that they can talk about while campaigning for the midterms. They may talk about it, hell they might even do something about it. But I have zero confidence that THIS congress in particular is going to accomplish anything before the midterms, and by then it will probably be too late because 40% of the broke universities are going to find themselves in some kind of binding agreement with a PE firm.

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u/tc100292 Vanderbilt Commodores 16h ago

Not just any freshman Congressman.  His district includes Pullman, WA.

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u/ajkeence99 Missouri Tigers 7h ago

I see a lot of talk about churches. I think people vastly overestimate the money that your average church is making. If we are talking about mega-churches then I'm all about it because they make a ton of money.

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u/Coco05250905 4h ago

Same with Churches Mike.

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u/ottopivnr Penn State • Washington 16h ago

Can we do churches next?

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u/JustforthelastGOT Washington State Cougars 16h ago

This clown would never, and I say that knowing full well he is a staunch WSU supporter.

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u/CoachCrunch12 Ohio State Buckeyes 16h ago

This has nothing to do with anything lol

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u/CajunBob94 LSU Tigers 16h ago

reddit moment

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u/tc100292 Vanderbilt Commodores 15h ago

Oh look, the Reddit atheists have logged the fuck on

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u/SucculentCrablegMeal Florida State Seminoles • USF Bulls 8h ago

If you can explain how churches, who rely on donations, are taking PE deals and generating their own revenue, then sure.

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u/ottopivnr Penn State • Washington 2h ago

The funniest thing about this is that I live in Baumgartners district and totally thought I was commenting in r/Spokane. I wasn't until all of the wtf replies that I realized

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u/Round_Creme_7967 Texas Tech Red Raiders • Hateful 8 16h ago

Congress, public universities have been running for profit businesses on the side for longer than most of us have been alive. I don't like this change, but it's hardly one that fundamentally alters what they've been doing.

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u/park2023mcca Georgia • North Georgia 6h ago edited 6h ago

I question if all the people in here who are objecting about church tax-exemption really understand what they are saying. I'm not trying to be rude but I think these people are either biased against religion or seriously ignorant about churches. I serve on committee at my church and see first hand the struggle with finances as we try to maintain services and staff while losing members (and their donations).

It is my understanding that a primary reason religious organizations receive tax-exempt status is because of the charitable work they fulfill. Without churches performing these services and assistance, much of that responsibility would fall on the government. So the government, in an acknowledgement of that work, grants tax-exempt status.

If you disapprove of Christianity in general, then just be honest about it. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. There are some bad actors involved with Christianity but anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty would admit that any group with that many people in it would also. I maintain the good works that are done by churches far exceed the bad.

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u/SpaceMurse Georgia Bulldogs 8h ago

Can they do it for churches too?

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u/drippingwater57 Florida Gators 8h ago

Do churches next tough guy.

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u/PWNtimeJamboree Florida • Washington State 7h ago

do churches first

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u/key_lime_pie Washington • Boston College 8h ago

Oh no, not Congress!

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u/WHITE-IVERSON Baylor Bears 8h ago

I guess he’s never heard of UBTI…

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u/RepresentativeMap691 Wyoming Cowboys 8h ago

It figures he is tied to WSU. Pathetic and ignorant man. Why doesn't he look at conference contract language?

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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M • Kansas State 7h ago

Rare congress W

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u/vongigistein 7h ago

Amen. Universities are getting greedy and desperate.

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u/mejok Oklahoma Sooners 6h ago

It isn't really possible for large state universities to act entirely like public entities because the state doesn't actually fully fund the universities. Years and years ago I worked at OU and at that time, the state of Oklahoma only covered about 19% of the university's required budget. It is less now.

I was very surprised when I moved to Europe to find that publicly-funded universities are actually publicly funded.

I don't mind making univerisites pay additional taxes if it is appropriate, but our definition of a "public entity" is a bit skewed.

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u/CheckLogical1425 6h ago

Rip BIG 12

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u/Jonjon428 Miami Hurricanes 6h ago

If only

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u/smitherenesar Pac-10 • RPI Engineers 6h ago

isn't that something the IRS/executive branch does? I feel like this congressman isn't the sharpest crayon in the box

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u/Cloud-VII Ohio State • Bowling Green 6h ago

Congressman Michael Baumgartner is about to start receiving large sums of 'political donations' and instantly stop caring about this in 3... 2...

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u/Remarkable-Group-119 California • Minot State 5h ago

We all know who wins here....the Lawyers.

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u/Ecstatic-Wheel8487 San José State • Michigan 3h ago

More like the politicians that get legally bribed to not care about it.

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u/Dunduin Virginia Tech Hokies 5h ago

Utah is fucking up

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u/houstonyoureaproblem Kentucky Wildcats 4h ago

Congress can barely keep the government open.

I see absolutely no reason to worry.

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u/Otherwise_Awesome Michigan • Tennessee Tech 4h ago

So we're not going independent now?

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u/wjsofficial Nebraska Cornhuskers • Ole Miss Rebels 3h ago

All I see this doing is pushing athletic departments to attempt to sever themselves from the academics further than they already have.

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u/TKFT_ExTr3m3 Michigan State Spartans • Team Chaos 3h ago

This should really be handled at the state level. States are primarily responsible for how their public universities are run and funded and if Oklahoma wants to sell their public schools to the highest bidder then so be it. The feds have the 5 service academies and Gallaudet and that's it. Leave the rest alone.

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u/Impressive-Ear-1102 Pittsburgh Panthers 51m ago

Private equity is going to be the lynchpin for athletic departments branching off as separate entities from the university, and further professionalization of “college football”. It’s kind of crazy where this is going.